AutoModerator questions - scheduling and flair

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Right above where it says "moderators of /s/" that's where the force add option should be.

I think you're right maybe it's an admin-only thing. I don't know how to access /u/saidit-bot to accept things. I can force add /u/automoderator to your admin team if you want.

Does every sub use the same user /u/automoderator? Another option would be to go to the subs shown in https://saidit.net/user/automoderator/ and ask the mods of those subs how they got it to work.

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Every sub would use the same user u/automoderator, yes. Here, it currently has zero subs it's modding, so there isn't anyone to ask.

Over on Reddit, the only reason people would even need AutoMod as a mod in their sub was for scheduling posts - otherwise having it as a mod wasn't needed, it could perform all other duties just using the regular wiki config page.

I'm decent enough with reading code, but understanding how bots work is beyond me. I'm afraid I can only point towards the end-result of their functionality, not necessary why or how they work the way they do.

Could you force-add u/automoderator to my private testing sub so I can see if the scheduler will even function? My private sub is s/DropTheT

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You're right it doesn't mod any subs. I wonder why it has posts at all? I find it confusing, I should figure out how this system works.

I guess the automod we have is currently being used to re-post things to ensure alternate sources, or ensure things don't get deleted. But just copying posts doesn't require mod privileges.

It's funny as an admin if I try to look at /u/automoderator's IP address, it gives me an error page. I guess that makes sense since it doesn't have an actual IP, just funny though.

I have force-added /u/automoderator to /s/DropTheT right now and we can begin an experiment, as you'll be the first to have automod actually have mod privileges.

Maybe if you don't mind, if you figure out stuff that actually works, perhaps you wouldn't mind documenting it on the saidit wiki here: https://saidit.net/wiki/automoderator You should already have permissions to do so, and we'd appreciate any additional documentation from anything you can figure out at all (even if it's just linking to reddit-based resources because everything is 99% the same) because this is new territory for us.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Absolutely, I'm happy to add any insight and details I have!

And thank you for force-adding AutoMod, I'll see if it works!

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Sweet! I'm very curious to hear any results you have, good or bad. I am going to try and learn about automod from what you learn, because I know little about it, but as the site admin I really should know how it works

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Just following up on this.

I've been tinkering with the AutoMod scheduler based on how Reddit described in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoModerator/comments/1z7rlu/now_available_for_testing_wikiconfigurable/

I suspect AutoMod on this site doesn't have a scheduler in it's code. I've tried getting it to update by sending messages saying both "schedule" and "update", and I've sent them as my own user name and as the subreddit itself, and I'm not getting any results :(

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Hm I see, thanks for the update with more details. Sorry it doesn't work, not sure how to fix that

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'll keep poking around and see if I can find the source code somewhere for the scheduler, even if it's an old version or an archive ... unfortunately, when Deimorz stopped being a Reddit employee, he took down his GitHub with all the code.

Would it be helpful to find other Reddit bots that do scheduling? Or is AutoMod unique enough that it's its own separate beast?

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Sounds good. I would just look only at reddit automod related stuff, it's got a unique system I'm sure. It could be as simple as we need to just enable it (which would be no problem), or it might be as complicated as we have to rebuild the whole scheduling program from scratch to make it work (which probably wouldn't happen). But who knows what the actual hangup is, if it's easy we'd definitely fix it if you can figure out what the issue is

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hi again!

I know this is an older thread, but it's where we were discussing AutoMod so I wanted to keep everything in the same place.

One of my other mods asked a user if he knew anything about the AutoMod scheduler, and it looks like it's meant to be a separate script running for AutoMod. He thought this should be the scheduler code: https://github.com/Deimos/ScheduleBot

Do you think this is something you all might consider? Like I mentioned earlier, I don't know anything about actually running bots, so I don't know the complexity of adjusting it to work for SaidIt.