How Smartphones have killed the digital camera industry

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

cellphone cameras still aren't high quality enough

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

My friend has a 10 megapixel camera phone and the photos look amazing. And I have a DSLR so I know what I'm talking about.

But the compact camera market is basically dead now thanks to phones. DSLRs will live on of course because of the nice lenses.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

do you know what exact phone it was, i was thinking of getting a google pixel 10 because I heard the camera was good but then reviews said they purposely slow it down just like apple does with iphones so I noped out

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No I don't know the model of the phone, sorry

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Huawei?

[–]Snow 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Most people don't need such good quality with more weight.

[–]Snow 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I love ultra wide-angle lens!! Can't find a cell phone with it.

[–]hennaojisan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Me too. I have a Panasonic/Leica small digital camera that zooms down to 28mm. Besides that, I've sold all my camera equipment. I use an iPhone 4s and it is good enough for my everyday needs, although I want a new DSLR—as soon as gold goes up in price.

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I don't know how to say ,ultra wide-angle lens is the angle of how I view the world.

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Do you want 28mm or even wider? If it is 14mm or wider, you would say a fish-eye lens.

I see the world through an ultra wide-angle (XXmm) lens.< That's what I think you want to say. And, yes, I think you do.

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

I prefer 20-14mm.

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

That really is wide angle. A good old 28mm is good enough for me. I'm more narrow-minded.

Latest update on the Kawasaki Slasher: His aunt and uncle had not seen his face for over 15 years. He was spotted on a surveillance camera at the scene of the crime four days before he slashed all those people so the crime was not completely random. When Japanese TV gets a story like this, every channel spends hours a day repeating the same stuff over and over with different "experts" called in to comment.

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

That really is wide angle.

I checked the locale wikipedia ,the definition of ultra wide angle is 12mm-24mm...When I answer you,I reference this:

https://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/simulator/

Angle of view:110°~90°

While I remind memories in my mind,usually is this angle of view.I guess it's very uncommon in human?

Latest update on the Kawasaki Slasher

I don't think it's completely random,he is targeted a private primary school.Japanese media like to spread the fear of murder.

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Because of peripheral vision, a young human can see—or at least be aware of—a bit over 180 degrees. You can't really see anything clearly at the extreme edge of your vision, but you are aware of movement.

Fun fact: Japan has a population of about 126 million but has more than 100 thousand hikikomori and the number is growing. Since the Kawasaki incident, thousands of parents have been calling their local city halls asking about what they can do about their hikikomori children, who are almost always male.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Because of peripheral vision, a young human can see—or at least be aware of—a bit over 180 degrees. You can't really see anything clearly at the extreme edge of your vision, but you are aware of movement.

I know,but I wanted to say in the memory,seem others would have less angle in their memory...Never mind,It's a kind of feeling hard to explain.

thousands of parents have been calling their local city halls asking about what they can do about their hikikomori children, who are almost always male.

Not must be male,is higher chance to be male,this is the reaction of male brain grow up in an unfriendly environment,female brain grow up in an unfriendly environment would become attention whores and bitches(in most people's words),because only the female brain is "forced social",this term is invented by myself. They can be "交" even in horrible environment ,which I feel is horrible.

Hikikomori have the problem to love humans ,their parents have to ask themselves why they rise a child can't love humans rather than use the murder event to ask the city halls,they shirk the fostering responsibility to the society.

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If you say it in the US—and I say it too—that male and female brains are different, you will be attacked by leftists with baseball bats. Maybe in your, secret, country, it is all right though. :)

In Japan 交 means "it is all right to cross the street here." I have to check to see what the other meanings are.

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Nice web site. I used to have a Panasonic digicam that zoomed from 28 to 270mm. When my wife and I split up briefly as almost everybody does, I left it at a different woman's apartment and never went back to get it. The models that followed that model were not as good. You have convinced me, so next time I will try an ultrawide lens.

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Better than no models.

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ha. No, I have never dated any models. The models I meant were Panasonic camera model numbers, but I'm sure you know that. You are pretty clever to make jokes across languages that is really hard to do.

At first, I thought you were a clever young man, like me, but now I'm thinking you might be a medical doctor. You do not need to comment on that.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My friend has a phone with snap-on lenses and one of them is a wide-angle lens. It's called "moment" or something, it's an add-on to an iphone

[–]Snow 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was going to get a one before you say this.

Edited:But I hate Apple.

[–]hennaojisan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A few nights ago the wife and I were looking at the Sharper Image website as a laugh. They have some outrageous products that no one needs. One product is a relatively HUGE lens that attaches to your smartphone. What a laugh.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty crazy... I remember those compact digital cameras with the sliding front covers and stuff, I guess those are basically worthless nowadays. I think the last one of those I owned was about 2008, which is just before the peak of the graph.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I wonder if there's a similar comparative overlay for personal music (Walkmans, Discmans, iPods, etc).

https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/computer-shipments-2015.png

https://static.businessinsider.com/image/567afe26e6183e9d408b466c/image.jpg

https://infographic.statista.com/normal/chartoftheday_12950_cd_sales_in_the_us_n.jpg - I helped make that peak.

http://www.johannesripken.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/US-Music-Revenues-1.png - Looks like the first music crash was pre-Reaganomics. Blamed on disco. Second crash... blame it on lame EDM and banal pop.

Did you forget about /s/Infographics? I might upload and post images of my graph paper collection. Metric rules, Imperial ruled, heavier accent lines, with and without punched holes, non-repro light blue vs light turquoise, some with cat bites, etc. Or my collection of skin graph photos. Maybe not.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press_Archive/199907/99-059/Image20.gif

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ipod_sales_per_quarter.svg/1280px-Ipod_sales_per_quarter.svg.png

https://bookriot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/ipodsales.png

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Interesting graphs! Thanks for digging them up. I think this one is the best of the group: http://www.johannesripken.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/US-Music-Revenues-1.png

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The most interesting thing is the red part can't cover the total lose. The industry is falling,it must became far more depend on big investment.The purpose of big investment is not for get the money back from this industry.

People just don't want to pay if it's free for downloading.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't find a good one on walkman-discman-ipod sales though.

If one were really motivated all of those could be adapted into a single timeline.

[–]hennaojisan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anyone remember when Napster changed everything? I filled up a few hard drives until I got a message on my screen: you are uploading music by Bill Evans that is copyright protected—cease and desist. I just laughed and kept on downloading, until a couple of weeks later they blocked my IP.

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is also due to facebook and instagram that connected the camera on the mobile phone directly to the internet for sharing.