Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for such an upbeat tone but unfortunately it's just a bunch of potato growing hillbillies here. I'm already on the next level and it's only my second year here. This year I arranged some raised beds paired with anti-bird netting, drip irrigation, compost bins, liquid manure and so on...None of them do this stuff. They get a tractor with a plough and a tractor with manure and they just plant stuff that needs little to no watering at all. I'm also working on hedging the bordering fences....It's a lot lol. Next year I would like more raised beds and some greenhouse setups to try and at lest get some strawberries before June ffs...:D What do you plant, any pics?

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]Robin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One thing about gardening skill is it's pretty easy to recognise -- if one of your neighbours has gardening talent, that'll probably be easy to see. Many people respond well to requests for help in gardening -- seeds are easy to come by if fruit is in season as is gardening know how. It's more FUN with friends. With veggies you can just plant at random near enough - lots of failures will equate to lots of learning. Fruit trees are a longer term thing, so good to get a bit of consultancy beforehand in case you realise only after years that you wish you'd planted something else there. If you're not in a city now, you could practice growing in packets and build up a stock for guerilla gardening in the neighbourhood.

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I recently moved here. I'm just now starting to understand what the heck is happening with flora. I'm looking at placing stone plates besides all plants, to accumulate sun during the day and radiate heat during night time and that would be good for mulching as well. I'm just a serious noob. I've lived in city buildings all my life.

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]Robin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We don't have a frost issue. It's more the reverse. Sometimes helpful to keep small trees in the shade until they can handle full sun.

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]Robin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmmm. Not my strong point; we don't have a lot of frost to deal with here... Any chance as regards microclimate? i.e. place them next to the air vents or some other such feature that would raise the temperature a few degrees?

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They mostly are OK as far as tree goes, but when there's so much morning frost in April when the fruit flowers, it kills them...so then all you have is a tree to look at

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]Robin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Larger trees are generally more tolerant of extreme temperature than smaller ones, so you could try using a container and moving your trees indoors for the first couple of Winters to help them get established.

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]Robin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have been growing 1000s of fruit trees from seed for years now. No, I don't have that much land. I grow them in pots and packets, to give them away to friends, neighbours & strangers. The most popular where I live are definitely papaya -- because I'm mostly giving to people in short term tenancies they want something that will fruit quickly.

Ideally you read up and study what grows where, which soil type, how much sun etc. In practice, most things grow in most circumstances, albeit sometimes not so well, so if you try and grow everything everywhere you'll learn quickly. I guess the single most important point to consider is probably temperature -- I live in the tropics, so I don't bother with any that need winter chilling (e.g. apples, pairs, peaches, plums etc). Conversely, if you live somewhere that it freezes, you can forget the tropical ones such as mangoes, lychees etc.

The main lesson is, don't stress about how, but PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE SOIL, NOW! Give seeds a chance! If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask...

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

i'm currently at over 700m altitude. spring frost often kills flower buds here...i'd like a pear and some weed but all i have is sum apples and plums and raspberries

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Easy for you to say, Jesus...

;-)

Anyone plant fruit trees; what kind; I just throw seeds into a permaculture garden after eating a fruit and already have 30 different fruit trees by Jesus in gardening

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Keep them away from your house foundation!

In 30 - 50 years they'll be a force of nature.

FarmBot: open source backyard robot for a fully automated garden (31:43) ~ Kirsten Dirksen, 2016-09-25 by JasonCarswell in gardening

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The OP video and the TED Talk videos are good but out of date. Check this out:

It's time for FarmBot Express and Genesis MAX (2:30) ~ FarmBot, 2019-11-28

Now back to notes on the OP video:

For a kit: $2,900, in 2017, coming down over time (up to 9x more cost effective with the larger 2019 garden versions in the short video above). Does not include water or electricity or wifi. Save $1000 by building your own parts (it helps to have a 3D printer). Almost everything is off the shelf. Open source and completely customizable. The software will only get better. Be independent off grid with a water source (rain barrel, tank, pond, river, etc) and only needs the 2 solar panels ($100 each? or $50 each? and/or with the batteries?). The 4x8 garden should easily provide enough vegetables for one person all year. Getting all your calories is another story. They're working on a bigger tougher 8x16 version to feed a family of 4.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FarmBot

Official sites:
https://farm.bot
https://forum.farmbot.org
https://software.farm.bot/docs/farmbot-os
https://developer.farm.bot/docs https://github.com/FarmBot
https://meta.farm.bot/docs - Intro to FarmBot Inc

TEDxUCLA | Open Source Automated Precision Farming | Rory Aronson (9:21) ~ FarmBot, 2017-04-12

Using FarmBot as an Accessibility Technology (7:56) ~ FarmBot, 2017-08-01

FarmBot channel on YouTube has 79 videos:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2O2FyrBnJjzyTSKHxpa9_A/videos

Mirrored post:
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How Planting Herbs Compliments Sustainable Gardening by Drewski in gardening

[–]Sepican 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My favorite herb to grow in the garden is lemongrass. The natural citronella in it keeps bugs away (mainly mosquitoes), is delicious wrapped around fish, and if you make a tea of it, you'll sweat citronella, which keeps the bugs off you without bugspray.

Comfrey is good to bring deep nutrients to the surface for other plants to utilize, and marigolds around the perimeter help keep pests in check.

Protip - piss on your compost pile. It adds nitrogen, and by the time you use it, the ammonia in the uric acid has broken down. Or use a pee-bale, a bale of hay that you pee on for several months, then let sit a month or two, then gets added to your compost. Sounds a bit wierd, but it makes a high nitrogen compost.

Square Foot Gardening - Now's the time! by JasonCarswell in gardening

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

LOL.

d3rr, ze garden fascist, "I vant ze zucchinis zegregated pfrom ze rutabaga! Do nut try to ezkape!"

Square Foot Gardening - Now's the time! by JasonCarswell in gardening

[–]Sepican 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I like this, thanks. Gonna try one in my garden.

Square Foot Gardening - Now's the time! by JasonCarswell in gardening

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's cool that you met him. I think it's a great beginner system too. Zucchinis don't seem to care which square I tell them to be in.

Square Foot Gardening - Now's the time! by JasonCarswell in gardening

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Perhaps "Cubic Foot Gardening" might have been more appropriate?

They don't have to be all food, and these creative gardens don't have to be for flowers.

Don't forget to grow a variety of mint plants for your cocktails!

Square Foot Gardening - Now's the time! by JasonCarswell in gardening

[–]Ludditebardd 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I met the man briefly in Utah, and its a great system to get started. Grow small, manageable amounts of things you like. But it doesn't have to be a square, and it doesn't have to be a grid. Square foot gardening is a stepping stone to ANY gardening. Grow what you like to eat.

How To Easily Turn Unwanted Weeds Into Valuable Liquid Garden Fertilizer by Vigte in gardening

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How To Easily Turn Unwanted Weeds Into Valuable Liquid Garden Fertilizer by Vigte in gardening

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i do this every year and it works absolutely great (10% dilution). using just nettles and comfrey will give an npk balanced fertilizer. i also like to add chopped spring shoots of willow, because there is rooting hormone in them.

this year however i have a duck pond, so i will start using that too. i toss seaweed, algae and duckweed in the pond for the ducks to eat (and poop). i will just pump the pond water on the garden beds and top up the pond from the well, keeping the pond from turning smelly.

i just hope the pond water wont be too strong, must do some trials.

Know Your Farmer by Jesus in gardening

[–]mikipika 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Time to remake Soylent Green. For all you young uns, it's a movie.

Why Is Martin Shkreli Still In Prison by beermeem in gardening

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Removed, wrong sub

Why Is Martin Shkreli Still In Prison by beermeem in gardening

[–]useless_aether 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

gardening?

[Store] Rare Seeds by Vigte in gardening

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

get some. There's lots around.

I got a bit, its cool. ton of work, but eating those sweet strawberries, or blueberries, or black currants, or apples is great. In 10 years might even get some pomegranates, or hazelnuts. Yum.

You Need To Be Growing This In Your Garden! by Vigte in gardening

[–]Vigte[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Helpful for beginners only, most likely.

[Store] Rare Seeds by Vigte in gardening

[–]Vigte[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Recommended by Ice Age Farmer

I have nothing to do with this place, just sharing a recommendation that I don't have the ability to take advantage of (no land to grow on).

Living Tree Fence by magnora7 in gardening

[–]mikipika 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Printscreen, crop, upload. Bye reddit jerks! I also avoid the utube links. I used to be able to replace youtube with invidio. Now the links won't have the address bar where I can change it.

Living Tree Fence by magnora7 in gardening

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perhaps you might consider sharing / collaborating / decentralizing that media resource?

WikiSpooks offers a full site backup to download, though they don't offer a bit or webtorrent of it which would be better. They would also do better if they provided a recent addition zip to add to all the other zips so that you wouldn't need to download all 5gb for a <100mb update. And then there's IPFS, etc.

After a decade away from webmastering, in the new year I will start my GlossedAndProfound.com to host/mirror my 3 projects - G&P, Bittersweet Seeds, Trutherism 101 - and maybe some Green Party stuff, most likely on MediaWiki. I would be happy to host or co-host SaidIt media there. I also hope to configure a home server as a mirror/backup - for emergencies only, slow until get fibre. Later I hope to expand it to include PeerTube, Mastodon, etc.

Living Tree Fence by magnora7 in gardening

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know, but are they still considered separate or are they singular after being fused?

It really is a masterful job.

Living Tree Fence by magnora7 in gardening

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it is a group of surgically conjoined trees

Living Tree Fence by magnora7 in gardening

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah v.reddit is especially irritating, I agree. I guess eventually we'll probably have our own media servers too, although I've been avoiding it as long as possible. We already do for the thumbnail/expando system, maybe someday we'll add full images and videos too

Living Tree Fence by magnora7 in gardening

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How/Why did Reddit claim ownership of media?

Living Tree Fence by magnora7 in gardening

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now this is the shit!!! If humanity wasn't caught in the BS eternal class war for fairness and resources then with our abundant free time away from the consumerist rat race we'd be creatively improving our lives and communities.

I wonder if that counts as one organism, a bunch of organisms, or some kind of trans-organism?

Living Tree Fence by magnora7 in gardening

[–]EndlessSunflowers 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Amazing Picture! Awesome Fence!
Funny tho that it is an i.reddit link
I was pissed when reddit somehow took ownership of all of these images and videos with v.reddit and shit - no downloading, no source, just reddit, fuck them (sorry, rant, lol)

PlantBuddies 🌿💘 Easy Companion Planting by useless_aether in gardening

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very cool. I planted some of that common "lucky bamboo" (which is actually not bamboo but a water lily I found out) along with some of that indoor Snake Plant, and it turns out they're close cousins in their taxonomic descriptions, and also have similar soil and water and light requirements. So they go great together in the same planter.

PlantBuddies 🌿💘 Easy Companion Planting by useless_aether in gardening

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice!

Live Succulents by planetdesertca in gardening

[–]d3rr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Marking you as spam. If you want you can post ads in /s/ads

bruh moment nig by nigblaster9000 in gardening

[–]qx4chenxp 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ye

bruh moment nig by nigblaster9000 in gardening

[–]Zizzle 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Enjoying your, uh.. gardening?

bruh moment nig by nigblaster9000 in gardening

[–]nigblaster9000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

nigg

The Biggest Little Farm [Official Trailer] ~ NEON, 2019-01-29 - [ documentary movie + extras linked in comments ] by JasonCarswell in gardening

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The Biggest Little Farm [Official Trailer] ~ NEON, 2019-01-29 (2:29) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfDTM4JxHl8

The Biggest Little Farm [2019] ''FuLL''MoVie'OnLine'[ Documentary ~ kurang apa, 2019-05-09 (1:03:15) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M43gmClSs9w

'THE BIGGEST LITTLE FARM' Interview: John & Molly Chester on My Favorite Documentary of the Year ~ Rama's Screen, 2019-05-19 (6:17) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqqB34riYV4

Q&A for THE BIGGEST LITTLE FARM with John & Molly Chester 2018 ~ DOCNYCfest, 2018-11-09 (17:52) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuVhi1BnRg8

THE BIGGEST LITTLE FARM | De eerste dieren (exclusieve clip) ~ Cinemien, 2019-05-01 (1:28) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VfmYTJOI3w

More: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+biggest+little+farm


THIS IS HOW MY FARM WORKS! - $100K on a quarter acre ~ Urban Farmer Curtis Stone - [ In the middle of a suburb!!! Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada ] by JasonCarswell in gardening

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The little harvesting bucket with the spinning brush was cool. Nice post

How to Grow Bush Beans - Ultimate Guide For High Yields by useless_aether in gardening

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How to Grow and Harvest Green Beans Best Techniques for Profit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow-NIbt8I78

Hallelujah! Government Allows Homeowners to Grow Vegetables! #NewWorldNextWeek ~ Corbett Report by JasonCarswell in gardening

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks.

There's more Corbett and garden stuff out there. Not a lot but some.

Hallelujah! Government Allows Homeowners to Grow Vegetables! #NewWorldNextWeek ~ Corbett Report by JasonCarswell in gardening

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i never thought i will see corbett on a gardening sub

but since we are doing politics, here are some other things that could be done to promote gardening and food independence https://saidit.net/s/Health/comments/hl5/prescribing_fruits_and_veggies_would_save_100/uvc

Better Than Blueberries? - Juneberry, Serviceberry, or Saskatoons by useless_aether in gardening

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

try partial or dappled shade next time?

Better Than Blueberries? - Juneberry, Serviceberry, or Saskatoons by useless_aether in gardening

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I only tried one goji berry, so I can't say I really have a good sample size though :P

Yeah I'm in zone 9 so I definitely can't do honeyberries I guess! Every year is a new experiment lol.

Better Than Blueberries? - Juneberry, Serviceberry, or Saskatoons by useless_aether in gardening

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

uh-oh, honeyberries are for zone 2-7 iirc they are from siberia / canada ?

i already planted everything, having a rest now.

Better Than Blueberries? - Juneberry, Serviceberry, or Saskatoons by useless_aether in gardening

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice, I've tried goji berries before and they all died outdoors in the texas summer. Mine are all in the ground. Maybe I'll give honey-berries a try, that sounds interesting!

Better Than Blueberries? - Juneberry, Serviceberry, or Saskatoons by useless_aether in gardening

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this will be a first time for me too. i have two of these, two honey-berries, two goji berries, an aronia and a blueberry in pots. i dug the holes and have the manure, i just need to figure out what to put where. the gojis needs no watering, so they will go to the part of the garden i cant reach with the hose. but they all need good sun if i want a harvest.

Better Than Blueberries? - Juneberry, Serviceberry, or Saskatoons by useless_aether in gardening

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice, I just put a very small blueberry bush in a couple weeks ago. It only has like 10 leaves so far, but it's growing. I also put in some grape vines that are also super young. Hopefully in a year or two I'll have some good fruit coming in

Interesting about these berries though, haven't heard of some of those.

How to Grow Pumpkins by useless_aether in gardening

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this will be the first for me, so thanks for the input!

How to Grow Pumpkins by useless_aether in gardening

[–]Farren 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well shit, I tried planting mine in the fall and didn't hill them, just placed on top of soil with a hay topper. No wonder I have no sprouts.

How to Grow Pumpkins by useless_aether in gardening

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Growing Kale - A Complete Guide To Grow The Best Kale In Your Garden by useless_aether in gardening

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I hate kale, but I have had kale chips/crisps from the grocery store that were really good. That sucks about the throwing up, I'd probably never touch it again too

Growing Kale - A Complete Guide To Grow The Best Kale In Your Garden by useless_aether in gardening

[–]Vigte 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not going to lie.

I ate Kale once with my gf. We both threw up for 2 days.

Not sure why - probably a bad batch... I just can't bring myself to trust it again lol.

Popular and Hardy Indoor Plants by magnora7 in gardening

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

sanseveria trifasciata is the best air purifier along with the spider plant

yucca is also good

https://www.healthline.com/health/health-potential-of-yucca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b08zwv2zHks

i heard weed is very popular as well :-)

[PDF warning] Pretty detailed vegetable seed saving guide by useless_aether in gardening

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the info! I think I'm going to buy some fruit trees soon. I'll probably just buy the whole tree to keep things easy.

the best way to go about it. but! my first purchase was from a big hw store and they mostly died. then i bought some from a big box gardening center and they mostly worked, but were 5x more expensive. then i tried a small nursery nearby who are mostly specialized in flowers and they also died. at last i found a university research facility that also sells to public and they were both cheap and had the most viable stock. or maybe i was just getting better at planting them :-)

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most seeds do work, they are just finicky or need a little help from us. once i looked into starting black locusts from seed and they need to be treated w boiling water... with notoriously difficult seeds they use like a 100 seeds just to get a couple of seedlings

I dunno, I really tried. I had several hundred of each, and I even 'stratified' them as suggested, which is basically a simulated winter. Even after that, none of the hundreds of seeds sprouted, I was so disappointed!

That's crazy about the boiling water.

Maybe I just got a bad batch of seeds.

Cherries sound amazing.

Thanks for the info! I think I'm going to buy some fruit trees soon. I'll probably just buy the whole tree to keep things easy.

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most seeds do work, they are just finicky or need a little help from us. once i looked into starting black locusts from seed and they need to be treated w boiling water... with notoriously difficult seeds they use like a 100 seeds just to get a couple of seedlings. but i found mango and avocado seeds sprouting in my red wiggler bins. i had strawberry seeds sprouting while still on the mother plant. my walnut and hazelnut trees are also producing viable seeds. otoh i pruned my cherry severly last year and in response it sent up around 50 shoots all around it. but those are all coming from its root stock so they are wild cherries. which is fine, they are delicious, and, when i want to do some cherry grafting in the future, i will have plenty of rootstock.

edit: right, so rootstock is started from seed and the scion is either a cutting or was also started from seed

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Thanks! How do they get a new tree though if the seeds don't work? Can you turn a branch in to a new tree by soaking it? Is that how all new apple trees are made?

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there are exceptions, but the best is to stick with the same type of fruit, in this case citrus. you could have five types of apples on the same tree, but not kiwi, figs, pears and oranges on the same tree.,

for example, i would aim for early-, mid-, and late season apple varieties on a single tree or both sweet and sour cherries on a single tree and so on.

usually what you buy at a nursery is already grafted for you, but yeah, use it however you want,

i would practice grafting on any piece of decidious greenwood / tree before moving to fruit trees.

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So can you just go to a gardening store and buy orange tree branches, and graft those on to a tree? I assume it only grafts on to special types of trees, not just any random tree. Like I have a crape myrtle tree, I can't just slap an orange tree branch on that, right?

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also some human cultivar seeds lost their germination capability and are only propagating vegetatively.

I guess that's the part I didn't really understand. Thanks for the explanation! Very interesting

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to germinate, some seeds need special treatments, like exposure to high/low temperatures (forest fire/deep freeze), or scarification, or a good soak or to be dried for a month or two before planting. also some human cultivar seeds lost their germination capability and are only propagating vegetatively.

usually its all done by grafting scions onto rootstocks. the rootstocks are usually the original, wild (resistant) varieties of the scion or wild almonds or what have you. the same deal with grapes. grafting is not hard to do with a grafting knife and some practice. and a bit of wax to protect the area from drying out.

there is also a technique, when you maintain moist soil around a tree limb for long enough for it to grow roots there. pick a limb that you would prune anyway, upto one inch thick. rig a tupperware or even just plastic bags might work. the hard part is to keep the soil in place and moist at all times. when there are roots, saw off the limb and plant as usual.

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What I want to know is why some seeds suck so much, mainly fruit seeds. I have planted blackberry, blueberry, strawberry, orange, apple, grapes, and NONE of them sprouted. And I put down hundreds of seeds of each, from different seed sources.

Apparently with almost all those fruits, people generally buy a cutting or part of a plant, and do not use the seeds. I find this bizarre. Apparently I don't understand fruit horticulture very well. My neighbor has a bunch of orange trees that are loaded, and I'm envious haha

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ha, the old geezer is a gardener! til. one of us!

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I would feel so much better about this ifNorway was still a reputable nation. It's completely corrupted so not sure what to make of their research. I will take it on faith and see how it applies on my small farm for the use of Druid-realms. Unfortunately they will be taking it to use to Kontrol the minds of mankind so its a good warning to us.

When you see these 6 media families in the US unable to control the gut instincts even though they have expanded into VR, have perfected shutting down minds using a few choice words like Alt, Conspiracy theory, etc. Attempt a coup d'etât yet, though a lot of censorship, still lost control - that's what they want to harness which makes me dubious about Norway and this delicate plant, biological work.

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I'm going to try this out this year. :)