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[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (131 children)

You're fucking stupid. He said 200,000 jews in Germany in 1942. Yet by 1945 6 million jews allegedly died...

More proof of the "my 6 million" lie from the talmud

[–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Fucking idiot, no one said every jewish person who died was from germany.You do realize there were other jews living in other countries in europe who died right?Once again holocaust deniers making a strawman to deceive idiots with their BS.

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh it's the fag again. According to the jewish almanac there wasn't even 6 million jews in all of Europe during WW2

[–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The American Jewish Yearbook placed the total Jewish population of Europe at about 9.5 million in 1933.What jewish source is claiming less than 6 million?Also i find it funny you say jews are liars of satan, but as soon as one says something that confirms your beliefs suddenly they are telling the truth.

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did I mention a yearbook? Why do you go to your local synagogue of satan and proclaim your love for your jew masters, coward

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

So Germany was purging all jews from Europe while all they wanted was for the jews to get out...yet nobody in Europe took them in...

And they did this while fighting a world war

And you actually believe such ridiculous lies!

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Let me ask you this then.So hitler found out about how jews wanted to genocide the white race and take over the world,knew that kicking them out would be pointless because they always come back after 109 times, and instead of killing them all in self defense to save the white race once and for all, you think he started a war with all of europe, killing millions of europeans in order to safely deport people who want to genocide the white race and let them live?And you actually worship hitler for this?

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's not what I think at all.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So then what do you believe about hitler and why did he want jews out of europe?If he just wanted them out of Germany he could of deported them all and not start a war.Even if you believe jews declared war on Germany, no other european country at that time did declare war until germany invaded Poland so why didn't hitler avoid war?

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

How do you deport people when nobody would take them in? Jews did declare war on Germany back in 1933 years before the holohoax. That's not a belief but a fact. I've already discussed why they wanted jews gone. They are doing some of the same stuff to the USA as they did with Germany.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Last i checked a boycott is not a declaration of war.By that logic, the right is declaring war on gay people by boycotting Target.Also do you not realize how hard it would be to move 650k+ people with no wealth to speak of which would then become the burden of the recipient nation while the great depression was going on? This combined with still prevalent anti-semitism throughout the Western world made the Evian conference a farce to justify further abuses by the German government.Even if hitler had no intent to kill jews and just wanted them gone from europe, Nazis thought that the Jews were both intelligent and a hivemind who's the biggest threat to the white race.If the Jews really are so super human and cunning then would it really be safe to give them an island no matter how far away?An island where they would make plans to take over and infiltrate europe once again without anyone noticing like the other 109 times?

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The great depression was caused by jew bankers crashing the market. They absolutely hated that Germany figured out a way to overcome it. Oh my god and now you're talking about anti-semitism. You always hear the what but never the why. Why are so many people antisemitic? Ever notice that? I guess for no reason at all people just started hating jews.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Blaming jews for the great depression but doesn't show proof of that.Ok they germany and wanted to kill all white people.If hitler didn't do the holocaust why let jews live but start a war killing millions of europeans, but letting jews live?

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (114 children)

You're fucking stupid.

So says the guy who actually thinks that his bullshit fools anyone. You know full well that not all of the six million jews came from Germany. Most of the murdered Jews were not German.

You: "Oh, where did the rest come from then? Uranus? LOL you're a faggot."

Try France, Greece, Hungary, Poland, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, the USSR, Netherlands, Bulgaria, etc. You know. Other countries in Europe where the Nazis or their allies took over.

But you already knew all this.

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (109 children)

Prove it. Prove to me that 6 million Jews were gassed and murdered. Show me physical evidence of just 1 jew being gassed.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (108 children)

Prove to me that 6 million Jews were gassed and murdered.

Not all of the 6 million Jews killed were gassed. But you know that.

Around 2.1 million Jews were gassed, plus a smaller number of non-Jews (mostly Poles), plus another 200-300 thousand German, Austrian, Polish and Czech "involuntary euthanasia" killings.

What sort of evidence would you accept?

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (107 children)

Physical evidence that proves jews were gassed.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (106 children)

What sort of physical evidence? Aside from the photos, the cyanide residues, the piles of ashes and human bone fragments, the empty Zyklon-B canisters?

Presumably the confessions from head Nazis, camp guards and doctors mean nothing to you.

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (105 children)

The type that proves 1 jew was gassed. Show me the jew and the physical evidence that proves said jew died from gas. This shouldn't be difficult for you. In fact you should've provided physical evidence instead of what did. But there's a reason for that, we both know why yet you refuse to admit the lie

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (101 children)

physical evidence that proves said jew died from gas.

Ah, so you're asking for evidence you know the Nazis destroyed. This proves you are not arguing in good faith. What's so special about physical evidence, do you think that it couldn't be faked too? According to you:

  • THE JOOS faked the tens of thousands of documents documenting the Nazi extermination campaign;
  • THE JOOS faked the hundreds of eyewitness accounts by people of many nationalities and religions;
  • THE JOOS faked the testimony of the survivors and prison guards and high-ranking SS officers;
  • and somehow prevented them from recanting their testimony during the trial, or even decades later;
  • THE JOOS faked the demographic data showing the disappearance of millions of Jews across Europe.

If THE JOOS are so powerful, why do you pretend that they couldn't have faked a few gas chambers or Hitler's signature on an order to kill all the Jews?

The truth is, you know that the Jews aren't that powerful now, and they certainly weren't that powerful in 1945. They couldn't have faked something of the scale of the Holocaust even if they wanted to. In the fog of war, historians have done a good job of investigating the crimes of the Nazis and proving them beyond reasonable doubt.

And they are capable of revising their conclusions.

Exaggerated claims from survivors about "lampshades made with human skin" have been treated skeptically by historians. The most sensational and macabre claims have been rejected unless there is excellent evidence for them, e.g. claims that camp guards threw living prisoners into the crematoriums is generally considered to be a myth. (It might have happened once or twice as particularly awful punishment, but not proven, and certainly it didn't happen on a large scale.)

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (100 children)

Ah so they destroyed all the evidence yet let millions survive the supposed "death camps"....

Still not figuring it out, huh?

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (62 children)

I noticed you didn't even attempt to refute any of his points in either comment.It's literally pointless to try and change your mind.You could literally be put into a time machine and sent back to 1940 and seeing millions die and you'll claim"Clearly the person who invented this time machine was a jew who is showing an alternate timeline where jews died".

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

No, they tried to destroy all the evidence, but failed. And they didn't "let" millions survive, they failed to kill them all.

The Nazis weren't superhuman god-like beings. They were people, often working at cross-purposes or with agendas of their own, struggling with the logistics of mass murder in the middle of a war where by 1943 they were being defeated.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

physical evidence

As you well know, the Nazis went to a lot of trouble to hide the existence of the extermination camps and destroy the evidence of mass murder. And they did a very good job of it. Germany efficiency.

But not perfect. Some physical evidence survived, enough to confirm the eye-witness accounts, the confessions, the documentary evidence and the indirect evidence. A handful of examples of hard physical evidence:

  • The land around Treblinka has many large burial pits. The soil contains recognisable fragments of human bone in such large quantities that they can only have come from a mass murder site, and the amount of ash is great enough to have changed the chemistry of the soil.
  • The brick foundations of the gas chambers have been found, confirming eyewitness accounts of the Star Of David design on the tiles.
  • In Auschwitz, where the gas chambers survived, there is detectable cyanide residue on the walls. The extermination chambers and the delousing chambers show distinctly different residues, matching what we expect from chemistry and eye witness testimony.
  • Thousands of pounds of human hair cut off the victims, some of it taken after gassing and showing traces of cyanide and Zyklon-B.
  • In Dachau, five gas chambers were constructed. Four where quite clearly meant for disinfection purposes. The fifth, however, was clearly constructed as an extermination chamber, complete with fake shower heads. Historians are divided on whether the fifth chamber had been used, the evidence is inconclusive. The case for gassings in Dachau itself is "Not Proven". But its mere existence proves that the Nazis had custom-built gas chambers for the express purpose of homicide.
  • The are traces of cyanide found in Hartheim Castle in Linz, where three thousand prisoners were sent and executed. Prussic acid has been found on metal objects taken from the victims.

Add to this physical evidence thousands of documents written by the Nazis, the eyewitness accounts of survivors (both Jews and non-Jews), the confessions of camp guards, SS and Einsatzgruppen, blueprints and requisition orders, train timetables and photographs, and the case is proven beyond reasonable doubt.

One piece of evidence which I find especially powerful is the five-hundred-and-sixty-four-page book called “Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers” by Jean-Claude Pressac. Pressac began his investigation into the gas chambers convinced that they were a fraud, but after eight years of painstaking, detailed study of the source materials, changed his mind. Among the evidence he found was the presence of 20 shower-heads in the inventory for Birkenau's Crematorium II, but no water pipes leading to the shower-heads.

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Books and words yet no physical evidence proving 1 jew was gassed. It's a miracle!

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Me: here's physical evidence.

You: still no physical evidence!

One of us is not arguing in good faith.

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So while Germany was fighting a world war they went around purging jews from all of Europe? This after they just wanted them out of Germany yet nobody would take them in...

You really believe that bullshit lol

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So while Germany was fighting a world war

Germany was fighting in Europe and North Africa, so not exactly a world war

they went around purging jews from all of Europe?

Yes, exactly. They could hardly purge jews from other countries before they conquered them, could they?

[–]Oyveygoyim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why the fuck would they care about jews in other countries before removing them from their own? Why did they put them in camps instead of just killing them like the jews claim?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why the fuck did the Nazis care about the Jews in the first place? They were a tiny minority with no real political power to speak of, and only a little cultural influence.

Why did they put them in camps instead of just killing them like the jews claim?

The Holocaust didn't spring into existence instantly the moment Hitler gained power, it was a nine year process of escalation:

  • mostly non-lethal attacks, beatings and destruction of property;
  • forced evictions of Jews with Polish passports to refugee camps outside of Germany;
  • involuntary euthanasia of the sick and disabled;
  • ad hoc individual killings and executions;
  • expulsion of people in the occupied territories from their homes to concentration camps and ghettos;
  • ad hoc massacres and pogroms in the ghettos and occupied territories;
  • policy of treating all Jews in the Soviet Union as military combatants to be shot on sight;
  • mobile killing squads;
  • extermination camps designed for industrial-scale murder.

Then, when the Nazis realised that they might lose the war, they shut down the extermination camps and tried to hide the evidence. But they kept the work camps going because by this time Nazi Germany was reliant on slave labour for much of its war production, and the other concentration camps because they weren't going to just release the prisoners to go home.

Even German efficiency can only kill so many people in a day. The rate at which people could be killed depended on the capacity of German police, army and local collaborators to round up people, the capacity of the railways to transport them across Europe to the killing centres, the speed at which they could be killed and the bodies disposed of.

Nazi policy on the Jews and Roma (gypsies) evolved gradually in fits and starts from 1933, when it began as a mere policy of violent discrimination and theft aimed at forcing them to "voluntarily" migrate out of Europe, to 1942 when the Nazi leadership agreed on an outright extermination program of all Jews in Europe. A lot can happen in nine years.

Pre-war, the Jews, Gypsies, political enemies and other "undesirables" where moved into concentration camps and labour camps. At this point there was not yet a decision made to exterminate them, but that doesn't mean that the Nazis were kind and loving guardians. They were worked hard on minimum rations, with cruel treatment, prisoners were often beaten to death, hanged or shot for minor infractions of camp rules. In general the concentration camps took a malign disinterest in the health of the prisoners, allowing them to die of overwork, malnutrition and disease.

This only got worse and more extreme as the war went on, when the prisoners in many camps were intentionally worked to death on starvation rations.

Early in the war, the Nazis began by moving Polish jews into temporary ghettos, until they decided what to do with them. When Germany invaded the USSR, Himmler ordered the army command to treat all Jews in the Soviet Union as partisans, regardless of their age or sex, which effectively gave the army carte blanche to shoot them on the spot. (German plans were to eventually depopulate all of Russia up to the Ural mountains by starvation, but the Jews were especially singled out.) They experimented with mobile shooting squads, but this was hard on the soldiers and not as effective or fast as the Nazis wanted.

In other parts of Eastern Europe, such as Lithuania, Belarussia (Belarus) and especially Poland, German forces and local collaborators massacred Jews by hand. E.g. the the German Reserve Police Battalion 309 massacred hundreds of Jewish men by locking them in a synagogue and setting the building on fire, then rampaged across the ghetto killing as many people as they could. Clearly this was not going to scale, and it wouldn't work at all in western Europe where the Jews where not concentrated in ghettos.

Up to this time, there were many different agencies dealing with "the Jewish problem", and they didn't agree on policy or implementation. For example, there was the Interior Ministry, the Foreign Ministry, the Justice Ministry, various Ministers for Eastern Territories, the Army, the SS and more. Only in 1942 did Reinhard Heydrich manage to assert complete authority over "the Jewish problem", at least on paper, and begin an outright extermination campaign across all of German occupied Europe. This was when the first extermination camps were built.

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