Scientists are panicking because the Webb telescope seems to have disproved the Big Bang Theory pretty conclusively.

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Agnosticism exists, as does outright atheism. You describe yourself as though you are agnostic, not atheist. I myself have zero faith in there being a creator and would not dream of having the same arrogance as the Abrahamic religions belief that said creator made everything just for a few primates on a rock. I simply don't accept the premise that their could be, I reject it fully.

There appears to be an idea of atheists being a group, no doubt an Americanism tied to the obsessive left Vs right wing dynamic everyone is stuck in. Not everything has to be seen through intersectionality.

The idea that Atheists are a group following the same political ideologies and morality is as absurd.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Agnosticism exists, as does outright atheism. You describe yourself as though you are agnostic, not atheist.

I think basically 100% of sane humans could fairly be described as agnostics.

I myself have zero faith in there being a creator and would not dream of having the same arrogance as the Abrahamic religions belief that said creator made everything just for a few primates on a rock. I simply don't accept the premise that their could be, I reject it fully.

Then I think you're delusional (and I'm not sure that "just for a few primates on a rock" claim is fair to all Abrahamic religions regardless.)

The idea that Atheists are a group following the same political ideologies and morality is as absurd.

I strongly suspect that a survey of the political positions of self-proclaimed atheists would exhibit more homogeneity of thought than a similar survey of, say, Roman Catholics. There are plenty of Catholics who are outright communists, and plenty of Catholics who are solidly behind Donald Trump. Atheists, anecdotally, seem to all hew to that "socially left / fiscally conservative" Reddit party line.

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Then may we agree to disagree. While you consider me delusional for denying the possibility of a creator, I find the concept of a creator to be a primitive concept for those who seek arrogant reassurance that all this was made just for you so you can fart on a bus and drink coffee. 🤘

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, I appreciate you at least entertaining my thoughts. My philosophy is a fundamentally abrasive one, in that it sort of says "there's no way you actually believe that." Makes it difficult to get beyond "square one" in any discussion like this.

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Admittedly there was a time when I was far more open to possibilities, although over the years I've taken a firmer position closer to anti-theism based on the sheer volume of terrible things that has come from religion and the belief in higher powers. I can imagine this stance even upsets the more average Joe atheist, but it is an immoveable position once attained. Our biological drive for curiosity is beset with this inexplicable tendency to diverge toward faith in the unknown without causation, without reason and without justification. I consider it something of a flaw.