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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Mostly "duh, god did it".

[–]jamesK_3rd 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

And that's still a thousand times better than the faith and belief of the zealous atheist.

Of course, atheists have always been willing to mass murder in the name of their deity, it's just some of them are smart enough to add fun names, and the rest of them are to stupid to know any different.. names like "abortion" or "communism", or scientism.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

atheists have always been willing to mass murder in the name of their deity

Do you even realise how ridiculous that comment is? Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity, it is non-religious and has no affiliation with the political ideology of communism. The absolute ignorance is astounding.

Your comment is the equivalent to saying "those who don't believe in Santa clause have always been willing to kick puppies in the name of their belief in Santa clause".

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

99% of self-described atheists are zombie adherents of what can only be described as religions, with more zealotry than most self-described religionists.

Calling oneself an "atheist" does not make it universally so. It's come to mean very little in practice.

The worst is when someone is delusional enough to think they are "without theism" yet they are zealots: delusional. Which is the case for most now.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

It comes across as delusional referring to someone who is without religion as devoutly religious.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

The delusion is 100% on the part of the one who calls himself "atheist" yet is devoutly religious. Such is the delusionality of most self-described atheists.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

🤣

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Yes, most self-described atheists are a real laugh out loud situation. They think stating they're "without theism" means they're "non-religious", and then in the same sentence they're extremist religionist worshipers of globalist ideological filth, and they try to murder nations and poison everyone, in the name of fake "social" causes, backed by international bankers seeking total control.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Political ideologies are not religions.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Any belief and thus worship can be a religion. Especially once there are millions of adherents which there are and much more than that.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity

This is the fundamental error of atheism. As a non-atheist, I don't "believe" in God. I have no direct evidence of His existence.

Nevertheless, I put my faith in the existence of a creator. This is a conscious act, a behavior, as is atheism.

The honest, intelligent atheist and the honest, intelligent Christian are working from the same evidence and both know basic science. They can't help but reach the same conclusion, which is "we don't know."

It's not the conclusion that differs. As I wrote, it's the behavior. Cynically, I might say that atheists take our shared conclusion as license to abort, steal, wear fedoras, indulge in non-professional quote-making, and kill.

That's all anecdotal and it's my personal, reductionist viewpoint only. But the bottom line is that atheism isn't a belief, it's a set of behaviors (one of which is self-identifying as atheist, often conspicuously).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Agnosticism exists, as does outright atheism. You describe yourself as though you are agnostic, not atheist. I myself have zero faith in there being a creator and would not dream of having the same arrogance as the Abrahamic religions belief that said creator made everything just for a few primates on a rock. I simply don't accept the premise that their could be, I reject it fully.

There appears to be an idea of atheists being a group, no doubt an Americanism tied to the obsessive left Vs right wing dynamic everyone is stuck in. Not everything has to be seen through intersectionality.

The idea that Atheists are a group following the same political ideologies and morality is as absurd.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Agnosticism exists, as does outright atheism. You describe yourself as though you are agnostic, not atheist.

I think basically 100% of sane humans could fairly be described as agnostics.

I myself have zero faith in there being a creator and would not dream of having the same arrogance as the Abrahamic religions belief that said creator made everything just for a few primates on a rock. I simply don't accept the premise that their could be, I reject it fully.

Then I think you're delusional (and I'm not sure that "just for a few primates on a rock" claim is fair to all Abrahamic religions regardless.)

The idea that Atheists are a group following the same political ideologies and morality is as absurd.

I strongly suspect that a survey of the political positions of self-proclaimed atheists would exhibit more homogeneity of thought than a similar survey of, say, Roman Catholics. There are plenty of Catholics who are outright communists, and plenty of Catholics who are solidly behind Donald Trump. Atheists, anecdotally, seem to all hew to that "socially left / fiscally conservative" Reddit party line.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Then may we agree to disagree. While you consider me delusional for denying the possibility of a creator, I find the concept of a creator to be a primitive concept for those who seek arrogant reassurance that all this was made just for you so you can fart on a bus and drink coffee. 🤘

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, I appreciate you at least entertaining my thoughts. My philosophy is a fundamentally abrasive one, in that it sort of says "there's no way you actually believe that." Makes it difficult to get beyond "square one" in any discussion like this.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Admittedly there was a time when I was far more open to possibilities, although over the years I've taken a firmer position closer to anti-theism based on the sheer volume of terrible things that has come from religion and the belief in higher powers. I can imagine this stance even upsets the more average Joe atheist, but it is an immoveable position once attained. Our biological drive for curiosity is beset with this inexplicable tendency to diverge toward faith in the unknown without causation, without reason and without justification. I consider it something of a flaw.