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[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

That's socks and usehername.

[–]grassfed 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yep

[–]carn0ld03 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I gave up on this sort of thing years ago. If they want to believe the lie over the truth, let them suffer the consequences of their ill fated decisions.

[–]iDontShift 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

i can show you 100 proofs the earth is flat

if i ask for proof the earth is a ball.. all you got is pictures and videos.

you inner says you are still.

there is no 'nasa space video' of weightlessness longer than a minute.

why? because that is all the longer the vomit comet can sustain a dive before going back up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduced-gravity_aircraft

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

I gave the flat-Earth hypothesis serious consideration as a form of due diligence. Instantly dismissing it as "absurd" is lazy thinking, simply accepting a repeated "truth" from society (spherical Earth) because that story is so profoundly embedded.

That said, upon reflection of the various evidence streams, flat Earth legitimately does not hold up. The simplest most direct refutation for a flat Earth is timezones. The experience of time and sun position in the various parts of Earth - easily confirmed when we travel or talk with friends in other parts of the world instantaneously - are consistent with a spherical Earth rotating around the sun. They make no sense on a flat Earth. The models I've seen of a disc with the poles at the center and the outside of that disc is inconsistent with sun position as observed in the many places I have traveled. The sphere makes this all quite intuitive, simple, and consistent - in other words: elegant. I've always been a fan of that word in science. The best explanations have the elegance of simple alignment with intuition, observation, and consideration.

As an aside, I spent some time recently digging into the three-dimensional interactions involved in our observed positions and phases of the moon as it rotates around Earth. Very cool!! The way our universe is constructed is magical, without a doubt. We don't need some "special resistance to mainstream brainwashing" like that put forth in a flat-Earth mindset to see the divine nature of the Universe. The current science/observation-based model of spherical planets and stars floating in a vacuum is plenty magical and mysterious enough to assure God's existence. Nothing could be more inexplicable than the actual function of our universe. We don't need to "see through" the observations of centuries; we just need to look at them honestly with wonder and an open mind to see we are WAY outclassed thinking we can comprehend fully how this miraculous universe operates. As to the "why", that is entirely and completely out of our reach. We can make zero contribution to that question.

When we appreciate and recognize fully what we actually witness with a truly open mind, giving up the vain and impossible desire to mold it to our liking, we see God is actually taking care of 99.999999999% of everything, and our role is absolutely trivial, only productive when we try our best to harmonize it with the wonderful dance that is always occurring with us, within us, and around us.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

you gave no proof. time zones in not proof. it simply proves a local sun that disappears in the horizon

the moon literally makes no sense. there are two tides on earth, the moon is supposed to be doing both? lol .. the best is that they say the moon is 'pulling the earth' to create the second tide. hilarious

God is all there is. you live within that which is called God.

that is important, and what we are lied to with is akin to the matrix style prison for you mind.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

No matter what I say, it appears we are going to have to agree to disagree on this.

I will, however, note that I have traveled extensively. Those travels include travel in the mid-latitudes, within the equatorial band, and at extremely high latitudes, both north and south. I have personally witnessed the sun travel a LOT of different arcs across the sky. All of those direct observations I have experienced make sense to me in the context of a spherical earth. On a flat earth, they don't. Just one example to suffice: have you ever spent time in a place where the sun does not set? I have. I have spent days with no sunrise or sunset; the sun goes around and around low near the horizon. How is that explained on a flat earth?

But as I said, I expect to agree to disagree with you on this. Peace.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How is that explained on a flat earth?

don't need to . no one can explain why a gyroscope works given all the 'motion' that is suppose to be happening.

let us examine all the motion

spinning, moving around the sun.. the solar system itself is moving within the galaxy.. and the numbers .. thousands upon thousands of miles an hour.. INCLUDING THE TURNING OF CORNERS

yea, no motion = not what they claim

southern hemisphere has no 'polaris' .. there is no 'south star'

i don't think you want to see what i have to show you..

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

no one can explain why a gyroscope works

False.

https://search.brave.com/search?q=gravitational+wells+and+orbits

thousands upon thousands of miles an hour

Relatively. Everything is relative. Including relative momentum and relative speed.

INCLUDING THE TURNING OF CORNERS

What does this even refer to?

southern hemisphere has no 'polaris' .. there is no 'south star'

Why does it need one? How is this an argument or relevant or even statistically likely?

How is the North Star even relevant?

" Because of precession, different stars will serve as north stars and the constellations arrayed along the ecliptic (zodiac) will gradually change positions. Their move about one degree every 73 years. Polaris will remain the North Star throughout the rest of our lives and for a few centuries later. " https://sport-net.org/how-close-is-the-north-star-to-true-north/

i don't think you want to see what i have to show you..

Idle threats. Bring it.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Relatively. Everything is relative.

Relativity is very cool physics. The math of special relativity is already way cool, regardless of Einstein and attempting to get to general relativity. General relativity to me sounds more like a spiritual quest than an approachable physics question, but I've never dug into it deeply. Special relativity is plenty cool enough for starters.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Relatively. Everything is relative. Including relative momentum and relative speed.

sorry bro, you feel it when you 'turn a corner' there is no point of 'equilibrium' just like there is none for a spinning ball.

there is no gravity, you cannot prove it

Relatively. Everything is relative. Including relative momentum and relative speed.

this is why you fail. if you where going ONLY in one direction, relativity matters

What does this even refer to?

the north star is an anomaly . it stays directly north of the north pole.

yet the earth is supposedly moving millions of miles in its orbit around the sun, and the north star.. stays still

Idle threats. Bring it.

it isn't about my willingness. all the evidence is around you, you live within it and your very thoughts drive it

you are One with God, and there is no other. your power is supreme, but not that which you define as the ego

tap into the power of God inside you by aligning with Truth

truth being your limitless nature

you have no one to blame but yourself for all of this

you can not cry to anyone that 'they did this'

YOU DID THIS

THIS IS ALL YOU FAULT

as it is mine. love you bro i hope we find a way to make peace here on earth.

i am aligning with God

with God, one is a majority

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Your lack of capitalization, punctuation, spelling, rational logic, and any sense of reason has eroded my confidence and finally convinced me.
Congratulations.
Good job.
Keep the blind faith.

/s

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you lack discernment

sorry for us all ;)

sincere

[–]Astaroth 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Have you considered a Geocentric model? Earth being spherical doesn't mean a Heliocentric model is correct

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've never looked into the idea, but given that the model used by astrophysicists fits well in the basics with what I have observed first-hand, I'm willing to accept that in addition to the spherical nature of the planet, the heliocentric model works as well. In this case, you're right that I am breaking the original comment I made about "due diligence", but once a model agrees sufficiently with my direct experience in the basic stuff, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt unless I see obvious reasons for doubt, which in this case I don't. I am willing to devote only so much energy into projects like these.

As to going to the moon, that is a separate question entirely, and I fall very much into the camp that that didn't happen. We have not yet been there, and getting there is still apparently out of our reach.

Every story must stand on its own merits.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

i can show you 100 proofs the earth is flat

Fine, go ahead.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

You haven't looked very hard.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

share you proof, you'd be the first

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

NASA is military and full of lies, secrets, and scams. The Moon Landing, Hubble Telescope, and Boeing X-37b stories are full of holes. That doesn't make Flat Earth true or logical physics false. Plus, I guarantee you special effects and practical optics would not age well under scrutiny (ie. Moon Landing footage and photos) and VFX teams would employ the tricks for movies if they could. (A good friend worked on Gravity and I can see lots of tells.)

Don't be so lazy. Keep looking for yourself.

Can anyone show me a video of astronauts in zero gravity that lasts longer than 20 minutes?
https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/3fbdxl/can_anyone_show_me_a_video_of_astronauts_in_zero/

Continuous shot from 1:06-28:08...

ONE OF THE MOST DETAILED ISS TOUR!!! (50:31) ~ Up, into space!, May 22, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvTmdIhYnes

OK Go - Upside Down & Inside Out (3:20)
https://vimeo.com/155343137

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

cgi, and shitty cgi at that.

dude flips the tablet in his hand in the most unnatural way.

he is holding himself ..

wires

all 'astrofakers' have short hair now

to much trouble with the long hair

google 'bubbles in space' for hilarious videos that may or may not be taken down

truth doesn't need to be defended. i am just pointing on reality. take it or not. be a tool or not.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

cgi, and shitty cgi at that.

I animated on more TV commercials and music videos than I can count from 1994-2010. How about you explain to me, an expert, what kind of CGI tells you see that I don't? Be very specific and note the timestamps.

dude flips the tablet in his hand in the most unnatural way.

Yes. It's called zero-G. It's very unnatural to us humans accustomed to gravity.

he is holding himself .. wires

Where/when?

all 'astrofakers' have short hair now to much trouble with the long hair

This is not new. This is practical. I have long hair. I have monster dust bunnies. I wouldn't want that shit gumming up my life support or other projects. I've even written a screenplay where the entire crew (5 women and 1 man) have shaved heads. Not only is it practical to be bald, the capable women are smaller, like space jockeys, needing less food and resources. Every ounce counts in space.

There's more than enough other stuff that shows evidence of floating "unnaturally" after being nudged, touched, or handled. Explain all that. This would have to be the most extravagant production that even Hollywood can't pull off - all for a little seen tour of a space station.

google 'bubbles in space' for hilarious videos that may or may not be taken down

I showed you. How about you show me yourself and stop being lazy (and thinking lazy)? Give me your best.

truth doesn't need to be defended. i am just pointing on reality. take it or not. be a tool or not.

Backatcha.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

what kind of CGI tells you see that I don't?

nasa has more CGI computer shit than anyone BUT hollywood

why would they need that? just take pictures you lying fucks

Yes. It's called zero-G. It's very unnatural to us humans accustomed to gravity.

its called hilarious cgi - reality bullshit ..

Where/when?

I'm not interested in helping them fix their shitty video

I showed you. How about you show me yourself and stop being lazy (and thinking lazy)? Give me your best.

you don't understand, all my efforts to create truth exposing posts are ultimately lose their impact because all things that people want, to verify your interesting post, all the things you to hold the truth up are DELETED they are not DEFEATED

YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE?

much of the truth is here. many lies as well. but the flat earth is just truth. how it is, and what it is.. that is an interesting topic and discussion I'd love to have

https://ifers.123.st/

[–]3rd-degree_moonburn 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Every flat-earther I've ever met is among the dumbest fucks I've ever had the misfortune to suffer. I'll bet you think the moon is hollow too.