He’s ruggedly handsome but would he kill for your tomato plants?

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[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (68 children)

Funny how what makes men "handsome" is all the traits that aren't good for them.

[–]goobandit[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (66 children)

Pretty sure being hot works in their favor most of, if not all the time

[–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (65 children)

Let's take the face for example. Masculine developments in the skull are made for strength and to look intimidating, but they're also uncomfortable and feel like a helmet you can't take off. And your eyes are always squished. It also makes you look mean and honestly really ugly compared to before. This benefits the tribe and the woman by having a strong man who is capable of fighting and heavy labor, but none of it is beneficial to him. This is nearly always the pattern, since the male is mostly disposable while every female is vital. What's really bad is how this even permeates your whole mind and all of your thoughts and abilities and feelings. Then we indoctrinate harder than probably anything else that certain things in life are only for girls and "disgusting" for a man to engage in. Notice how these are almost all purely for-fun activities with no benefit to society. It's a mental block to prevent males from being willing or even realizing to rebel against their 24/7 enslavement. Meant to make them never realize that life can be fun and that it doesn't have to be all accomplishments and duties.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

Is this actually a thing?

Do men feel their eyes are being squished by their own skulls?

Or do you personally just have brain fog from leading a boring, safe life?

I think you'll find having a thick skull only benefits men because it protects them from head injuries, it has no benefit to anyone else.

[–]goobandit[S] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I think you'll find having a thick skull only benefits men because it protects them from head injuries

Protects from ego injuries too

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

My eyes are indeed squished and I have to raise my eyebrows to feel partially comfortable again. Of course, that's a discomfort of its own. I did not have this problem before puberty. It honestly makes me look so mean, and I think it's ugly and takes the personality out of my face. I prefer quality over quantity in life, so I don't care if it has a slight chance of protecting me from some injury, I don't want it. It's really intended to benefit the tribe because it protects you during battle and makes you a better fighter. Something I would hate doing I might add.

I don't know that I have brain fog as much as I just don't like how my mind works compared to before. And even that I think was slightly damaged. Basically all my emotions and creativity are severely blocked, and even my physical senses are dull; I can't see as vibrantly or feel as vividly. I lost most of my intelligence too. Apparently this is meant to make me better at hunting and fighting and working and mating, all things I find extremely boring and some of them grotesque.

I feel like there's just so much baggage that comes with being male, so it'd better suit you or you're going to be miserable. I do not enjoy it.

[–]Node 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I can report that the issues bothering you are not a function of being male in particular. You may be male, but the maleness itself isn't the cause of the problems you're experiencing. If it were, then I and all the rest of males would be as unhappy, but I believe being male is the greatest thing ever.

I have no unremovable helmet. My eyes are not squished, although I do need vision enhancement to perceive sufficient resolution at a distance.

As for looking mean, I've had to cultivate appropriate facial hair and a scowl in order to look mean enough to intimidate the maskers.

certain things in life are only for girls and "disgusting" for a man to engage in.

Bleeding genitals... Girls can keep that one.

It's a mental block to prevent males from being willing or even realizing to rebel against their 24/7 enslavement.

Ah, the enslavement. That's not a male problem, it's a stupidity problem, and somewhere around 80%+ (80 to 99%, depending on your criteria) of humans suffer from it.

life can be fun and that it doesn't have to be all accomplishments and duties.

Agreed. Position yourself on the correct life-track and you'll enjoy your life. However, too much accurate perception of the actual state of "humanity" will lead to much frustration and disappointment. We humans are a species of mammal that incorrectly believe we're both conscious and intelligent. A quick glance around proves how faulty that belief really is.

Maybe I'm just biased

Nothing wrong with being biased unless it negatively impacts your survival and ongoing functionality. After many decades of living, I'm extremely biased by my learning experiences. If you're not biased and racist as a result of your experiences, you haven't learned a damned thing.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

If it were, then I and all the rest of males would be as unhappy, but I believe being male is the greatest thing ever.

I think normal people have an inborn drive to perform their tribal roles, thus you like it even though it's bad for you. I don't, probably because of autism, and I'm pretty sure there's at least some gender dysphoria too so maybe that makes it seem worse to me than it actually is.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Not sure exactly what my tribal role might be, but I'm pretty sure there've only been a few points where one might claim I've been performing it.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

In the wilderness your role would've been to do almost all of the work and go to battle. And mate and have lots of sex. We still see this today with men wanting to work long hours for women and pay for everything, and accepting strict codes of conduct for themselves, such as no weakness at all allowed, no fun, etc. This doesn't benefit men at all, but most of them still want to do it because they're too proud not to. And there's a reason so many men are extremely into sports and very competitive; alphas used to fight each other for mates. And why humans seem to hate their own freedom and love government? Also tribal instinct, we want to see "strong" leaders and are really into conformity. Humans are still tribal animals and still have the instincts of one. The echos of tribal life are still here if you look.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We're still a herd mammal inhabiting the surface of this planet. Showing weakness is how you get killed, since many of us still eat each other as a source of food. Fellow humans help cull the weak, because it typically plays out as a defect that's unwanted in future humans. The benefit of strength is surviving, and passing along ones genes to the next iterations. There's also a "body-feel" to strength that's undeniably pleasurable.

And why humans seem to hate their own freedom and love government?

Herd animal. Remember the shape of the bell curve for IQ, and how there's only a tiny fraction of humans who can be considered intelligent. Trudge up that slope to the left and you'll begin to encounter more and more instinctual behaviors, along with a mostly unrecognized need for 'guidance' from a superior IQ. In this case I think the 80/20 rule is wildly optimistic, and the 20 is more like a single digit that's just a straight line.

But that's just a gross overview, and actual conditions on the ground are extremely variable. Your weakness will get you beheaded in some places, while in others it will get you an EBT card.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think you'll find in tribal peoples women and men to roughly the same amount of work, around 3-4 hours a day. Tribal people also tend not to like strong men leaders and will kill them off if they think they are getting too powerful.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Outed

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/06/teenager-jonty-bravery-who-threw-child-from-tate-modern-balcony-admits-attempted-murder

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

See this is the kind of thing that scares me. That people like me can be driven so insane to do something that gruesome. I'm really hoping I never end up there. And most of these incidents could be avoided by not mistreating people for being male and driving them this insane while denying them any support until they crack.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

that reminds me of

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/04/man-who-threw-boy-off-mall-balcony-after-looking-someone-kill-gets-year-sentence/

also autistic. But also sounds like they both have schitzophrenia. Voices telling you to do evil things must be horrible. In that case the guy should have already been in jail but they of course didn't want to do that for BLM and woke reasons.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I sometimes have nasty thoughts enter my head and I hate them. That's probably what they're referring to.

If they're hearing voices they need mental treatment like I said, not thrown in jail for not being man enough. Society treating them this way and ignoring the very clear warning signs under the excuse of "he just needs to man up" is probably responsible for most of these behaviors. You have to wonder why it's almost always men who do it. Probably because we take womens' issues seriously and don't punish them for having them, so they rarely reach this point.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

they used to have mental hospitals for these folks but now they're just burdens on their families or homeless. I think part of the reason they closed mental hospitals is it's hard to prove a mental condition and conservatives worry some may fake it in order to have an easy life. Also they want them out their commiting crimes so crime rates rise and people are kept in tension and afraid. It might be harder for women to kill people like this, like could a woman be strong enough to pick up a 6 year old and chuck them over the railing? I think besides that limitation women are just as insane on average.

[–]goobandit[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (42 children)

This is the kind of mentality that’s going to cause infighting and make us more susceptible to raiders.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (41 children)

How so?

[–]goobandit[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (40 children)

Because you’re talking about male skulls, being enslaved by gender roles and stereotypes, and I’m asking if you can help push boulders off a cliff onto the enemies I lure into the canyon.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (39 children)

But if no one had to be male we wouldn't need to worry about men attacking us in the first place. Maybe I'm just biased but I know I wish I wasn't.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Before men attacked each other they had wild animals to worry about.

50% of chimps are killed by big cats.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Well we don't have that worry either now, so I shouldn't have to suffer for slightly better chances of fending them off.

[–]goobandit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

Males exist though, and they’re stronger than females. There is no timeline where men and women survive without one another. It’s like you’re talking some good ol boys “be a man!” idea and I’m talking resource defense and preservation.

This has me considering a post-apocalyptic warlord who was a doctor and attains the position by being able to save lives more often than taking them.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (35 children)

I know it's necessary for survival, I'm just sick of permanently being stuck on the side of it that's worse in nearly every way. It really seems to me that all women ever have to deal with is some annoying organs, for us everything is overhauled in a way that's negative for us, and we're handed extremely high expectations. Maybe I'm supposed to want that somehow, but I certainly don't.

[–]goobandit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (34 children)

It seems this way to you because, and correct me if I’m wrong, you’re only listening to other male perspectives on women. Women will undoubtedly have a different perspective, but are you open to hearing it?

If you don’t know by now, the expectations placed on you are unnecessary. Sure, there’s regular human stuff everyone does, or “should” do.

Maybe I'm supposed to want that somehow, but I certainly don't.

It’s up to you how you want your life to be, and I obviously don’t know your circumstances, but what exactly would you lose by doing what you want instead of what’s expected of you?

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Being black?