I got banned off discord. It was the r/trees discord. https://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/5cn051/rtrees_discord_server_is_now_live/
I said rapists need to be forgiven. Which is true, forgivess is healing for both the rapist and the rapee. We don't need to be cruel to the rapee. We don't need to say shut up and forgive him, or force forgiveness. But forgiveness will happen naturally over time hopefully. that would be best.
I said rapists need therapy. Which is also true. I think they have some kind of desire or urge they are having difficulty controlling.
I said not all rape is rape. There are many false accusations of rape.
Consent and rape are both spectrums. You can have total lack of consent, someone screaming stop or no. Or almost consent, in which a party seems willing but isnt, or strong consent which would be shouting yes. Same with rape, you can have violent and brutal rapes and you can have barely rapes, in which nothing occured but maybe someone thought someone did something, maybe it wasn't even the person they thought because it was too dark, rapes where the line is extremely gray.
Anyway after I said these things someone there took offense and harrased me about my comments.
I engaged in a discussion about the James Franco case specifically. I was labeled a rape apologist and James was the rapist. Partially because of my previous comments and also because I made new comments about this case specifically.
According to the story, franco "pushed her head down and she gave him a blowjob". But she didn't like her head being pushed down, so later she said it was actually sexually assault. People in this discord seemed to think that James Franco forcefully held her head down or pressured her in a way in which she had no choice. I said she did have a choice, she let him push her head down and then chose to suck him. It was her choice to do that, she could have run away, punched him, bitten his dick, etc etc. She chose to do that, so why is that a sexual assault? Then for this I was banned from the server.
I was in a channel called "discussion_island" at the time, I had just hit level 20 on the server and was having a pretty good time. This was not a fun discussion for me because of the venomous nature of some people but I understand some discussions get heated. Also I believe there were a few bad faith actors also there, misconstruing literally everything I said, calling me a rapist randomly, saying I'm going to rape someone, incel, etc etc.
Anyways now I'm banned and I'm just disappointed that it seems almost impossible to find common ground with some people. I've had run-ins with this same thought ideology many times before and it seems to only be growing. At that point I say that whatever happens is going to be inevitable, because we weren't able to be human enough to meet somewhere in the middle. So good luck to them. if you have any more questions please feel free to ask below. Thanks for reading.
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