I just deleted my reddit account...

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[–]ThePlague 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Yeah, I have no real desire to do a dramatic deletion, let alone announce it. I just find Reddit less and less useful and engaging, so I use it less and less. That's how websites generally die: not of anger, but indifference. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if I still had a MySpace or GeoCities account, but I am so monumentally indifferent that I don't even know or care. We're in the early stages of that for reddit (and youtube, etc), as they transition to niche products serving a very specific audience that is ever dwindling.

[–]Dragonerne 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Google is on its way to become the internet through the new programming standard "amp"

[–]ThePlague 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I haven't heard of "amp", but programming standards don't make the internet: protocols do, such as TCP/IP and port assignments (21 ftp, 80 web, etc). Sun didn't "become the internet" when it made Java or Javascript, Microsoft didn't with .net or C sharp, and I doubt google will with their programming standard. Also, google is prone to abandon projects, or all but, even after years of development.

[–]Dragonerne 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

What happens is that websites using AMP will be loaded faster from Google. Google "renders" the entire website on their platform, so you basically never leave google. If you run chrome, it wont even show that you're still on Google, it will just show the url of the website that google is "rendering". On other browsers you will at least see that you're still on google but you might not care because its running faster.

Then google starts promoting AMP websites in their rankings. Slowly google is the "visible" internet. Then they can start removing stuff from websites that they don't want shown, because you're still on google. They're just rendering a different website for you like they want you to see that website. Etc.

[–]ThePlague 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Sooo, it sounds like Amp is Stadia for web pages. Like stadia, I'm not sure how remote rendering can be faster than local hardware, particularly for something like even a complicated web page. There's also the latency issue.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Good questions.

[–]ThePlague 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Then google starts promoting AMP websites in their rankings.

I have to wonder if they'd get slapped with anti-competitive monopoly practices if they did this. They have north of 90% of search engine market. That's a higher percentage than Microsoft had of the desktop market in the late 90s/early 2000s, and they got hit from DOJ for monopolistic practices particularly in the browser space.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They already censor, etc. their search results. If it would be illegal for them to directly promote AMP, they could just do like they do with everything else do it indirectly.

Kind of like this tool:
http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php

If it's illegal to discriminate against gender, then you can use metrics that fairly accurately predict gender and then use those metrics as your basis for discrimination.

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    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The prediction is weak ;)

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]ThePlague 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The downside is that you never see the original site and their ad revenue is stolen.

      Hmmm, that sounds similar to "deep linking", or using frames to display the content of a web site while cutting off the ads and displaying your own. There was a court case about 15 years ago that addressed that, and made it actionable, possibly even illegal.

      [–]bug-in-recovery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Google "optimizes them for mobile".

      [–]ThePlague 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Sure, but that's more an interface thing for a small screen than reducing computing horsepower necessary.

      [–]Aureus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      That's pretty freaky.

      [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's reddit all over. Just this time with the entire internet

      [–]blue1324 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      I can't stand AMP, I stopped using Chrome on my phone because of it.

      [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I might do that. What do you use now?

      [–]bug-in-recovery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Use something FOSS (free, open source).

      Most browsers are loaded up with trackers.

      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.duckduckgo.mobile.android&hl=en_US

      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiwibrowser.browser&hl=en_US

      I could go on about this topic, lol.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I just find Reddit less and less useful and engaging, so I use it less and less.

      This. However, I will posit that if people knew just how evil reddit really is, they would take more interest in watching it get flushed down the shitter. Case in point, reddit actively sells user contact info, combined with their posts and comments to advertisers outside of the reddit pipeline. I first discovered this a couple years ago when I started seeing these ads showing up in my email on topics that I'd only discussed on reddit. I did some poking around and testing, and made a post about it. My post was hugely popular but it was immediately removed by the mods, because reddit has plot armor in that there are no posts allowed about reddit in the front page subs.