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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I don't think that his religion was the only thing that influenced his affinity to that catch phrase. A lot of boomers of all denominations would agree with that. Working hard and sacrificing to give your kids a better life so they could have a springboard to more success than you could achieve was the American dream. It was all about the ability to build a legacy. To build wealth. To make tomorrow better than today, and projecting that growth indefinitely down your lineage.

That is why a strong, long lasting nation is so important to them. It is the promise that what they built will not be taken by foreign powers. It is also why they hate socialism. Because socialism will make all their hard work and sacrifice void by taking from their kids and giving it away to all the kids of all the people who did not work hard and sacrifice.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

If the Boomers (as well as Gen X, Millennials, and now Gen Zoomers) were more aware of propaganda the middle class wouldn't have been hollowed out and this manufactured pandemic crisis wouldn't fly. But who has time to be aware when you're too busy working and sacrificing only to have it stolen by the ruling class?

We're told about enemies, foreign and domestic - yet manage to ignore the domestic ones telling us about "terrorism" and "lone shooters" while their corporate crime dwarfs all the petty small time shit that plagues the ghettos and fills the prisons.

Billionaires pay millionaires to tell the middle class that the poor are the problem.

Stop fucking worrying about the masses of powerless poor people and punch up and fight the ruling class criminals. Who fucking cares if Joe Blow is a lazy fuck "scamming the system" that doesn't offer him any decent motivating opportunities, when Joe Biden's lazy fuck son and his kind are corrupt as hell doing international scams that affect millions if not billions of people?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

+3

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The perfect quote for leftist policies. Welfare is the perfect example. People on welfare never get the opportunity to develop into productive members of society. They don't develop the skills needed to be successful in the workforce, they don't get the opportunity to work their way up and build a career, they don't learn any skills, they don't network. Welfare is like a drug, you get a high and you get addicted. The end result is terrible.

punch up

A phrase often used by the left to justify their anti white racism, or to shut down criticism of their bullshit. Stop looking at everything through a lens of us vs them. There is no punching up or down, there is only truth and lies, right and wrong, logical and illogical.

Joe Biden's corruption does not justify Joe Blows corruption. It is not a valid argument to tell people to ignore Joe just because Biden is corrupt.

I'm not against welfare, but it has to be reformed. We absolutely need to stop pushing for more and more welfare. If we do that maybe we will be able to work together to put a stop to Biden's corruption.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

More crappy blanket statements loaded with conservative stereotypes and talking points. You clearly have no idea what you're even talking about.

Sure, just keep punching down and ignore the corporatocracy, and maybe they'll both just evaporate of their own accord. I said NOTHING about anti-white racism. I'm white. Bring on the criticism - without the stupid talking points. The ONLY us vs them that matters is the ruling class's class warfare. Billionaires pay millionaires to tell the middle class the poor are the problem while completely ignoring the profoundly criminal corporate crime. Your binary black and white world has ZERO nuance, shades, or colour, and I feel sorry for you.

You can't solve the poor until you solve the ruling class.

Who are you to judge Joe Blow and his "corruption" that is likely on par with your own. Certainly your vane morality is an obnoxious sin. I'm telling anyone to ignore Joe Blow but we can't worry about a splinter if there's a missing leg needing triage. The globalist corporatocracy IS THE GREATEST THREAT TO HUMANITY. And they are responsible for the circumstances, position, and limits of Joe Blow. I'm all for reforming welfare (quantity is not the issue when they can just print money on whims - quality is) - but it means absolutely NOTHING without completely overhauling the 1% ruling class. Sadly I see no solutions - other than greater mass awareness and contextual understanding that all governments and giant corporations are EVIL. Fuck Biden AND Trump and all those fuckers.

You show zero greater contextual understanding.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

The ONLY us vs them that matters is the ruling class's class warfare.

No it's not

Your binary black and white world has ZERO nuance

My binary world? This is literally double speak.

You can't solve the poor until you solve the ruling class.

You can't solve poor period. It is a relative state. The people on welfare in America are richer than most people who work in 3rd world countries, let alone the billions of jobless people around the world. They would not be considered poor if there were a global standard. So at this point they are not really poor, just poorer than others in America, and so they want more. That is just greed. And greed is a bottomless pit you can never fill.

I am all for fighting the corruption of the rich, and if you can't solve poor without it then let's stop demanding more welfare until we solve corporate corruption.

Who are you to judge Joe Blow and his "corruption" that is likely on par with your own.

I am not corrupt. I don't scam anyone or anything. And I certainly would never have the audacity to demand that if I did others better look the other way and not judge me.

And they are responsible for the circumstances, position, and limits of Joe Blow

fuck off. Everyone is born naked and destitute. It is your parent's responsibility to provide for you. Not the state, not the rich, not your neighbors. It is Joe Blow's parent's who are responsible for the circumstances, position, and limits of Joe Blow.

You show zero greater contextual understanding.

Your impression that you have a greater contextual understanding is pure delusion.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Brrrr, brrrrr money printing. Lets be honest, there should not be any safety nets for large corporations. Oh wait the US is a corporation. The sate perpetually bailsput corporations on trillion dollar welfare tickets.

Most billionaires fuck the little people. They are in opposition to Yeshua. I'm not jeaouls of them, for they have free will to do as they please. A farmer who is on welfare works far harder than most billionaires do.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The problem with leftist policies that claim to go after the money of billionaires is that they never actually go after the billionaires but in actuality the middle class are the ones who get the bill.

They put out propaganda about how it is unfair that the .001% have 50% of all wealth and the bottom 50% have 5% or some shit and then the solution is a welfare program that takes money out of the pockets of the middle class who pay all the taxes while the 1% still don't pay a dime. Meanwhile the welfare program is the 50th one and the last 49 did absolutely nothing to reduce inequality because all the money you hand over to the welfare class is squandered. And now the middle class, who would have used that money to start a business or fund an innovation can't afford to do that.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That is not the problem of "leftist policies" - that is a problem of political corruption - on both sides of the aisle.

I agree that welfare is little a band-aid on a major traumatic wound when we should be worried about the bigger picture, the rigged unfair systems, the endless "laws" in their favour, and the excessive leverage of the ruling class - and all of these factors are causing the major traumatic wound. We need to deal with the source of the wound, but we still need that little band-aid as it's keeping millions of people alive, and we need to make it bigger and improve its efficacy.

The middle class are NOT held back by the poor.

They are held back by the policies handed down by the ruling class.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I agree on the welfare stance. But there is far more money hoarded and locked up than what is circulating. We need to rid of the unconstitutional federal reserve and bring back sound tangible currency not backed by Taxes through labour.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree. The fact that we have handed over our currency to central bankers who have the power to print the money at will, while the government has to borrow from them and pay it back with tax dollars is absolutely retarded and unjustifiable.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, it's printed by the Incorporated FED which is unconstitutional but backed by permanent public debt; ie. public labour and taxes is collateral to pay back interest. Then they flood the money supply creating inflation and therefore devalue your worth and labour.l via stagnation of wages. Scumbags.

Then they buy up property and assets at firesale prices. Boom and bust is the game.

The problem is; the more they do this crap; the more people are going to be homeless or on welfare. Farmers can barely get by. And they want this; it is their goal.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Decentralized banking. North Dakota bank keeps their wealth in North Dakota, despite a century of the establishment trying to siphon off their wealth to Wall Street.

There's no rational reason why there can't be state or even city currencies - or any number of diverse ways to exchange value.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

North Dakota still trades on wallstreet and the real reason they, "North Dakota" did fine throughout the 2008 collapse was because of their oil wells.

That would be a start to a more community based banking system, but I still believe Jackson's and Jefferson's silver certificate currency NOT based on government bonds would be a better option.

It starts at central banking. Public banking attached to the head of the FED is just better shit but still shit.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

However, public banking is an option and would be far better than the bric and mortar banks today, but it still is attached to the FED and it uses Federal Reserve botes backed by government bonds.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, but it starts at a federal level. If public banking is attached to money backed by government bonds then it essentially maintains permanent public debt. Decentralized Public banking based on silver ceetificates and indepedent treasuries and holding houses are a far better option in my honest opinion.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why settle for certificates that can be corrupted or fake? Many wonder if there's even any gold at Fort Knox. Better to have the real thing in your vaults. But ya, I agree with you - the federal money is a problem - thus alt local currencies. There's absolutely no reason there can't be many simultaneously - and there's no reason our pocket calculators can't do quick conversions on the fly.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Comparing the poor to the destitute is BEYOND IGNORANT. The entire system prevents any of them from rising. They don't choose that life and to live in squalor their entire lives without bettering themselves and their world. That is NOT A CHOICE.

" if you can't solve poor without it then let's stop demanding more welfare until we solve corporate corruption. "

What the hell kind of fucked up logic is that? Let them all suffer and die until we solve the unsolvable?

WRONG

If anything we need more compassion for the poor and they deserve more chances to escape, climb, and opportunity to join us in the crusade against the unfair rigged systems. THEY are our ALLIES in this struggle against a few who own more than half the world COMBINED.

I'm quite certain that Joe Blow would not consider themselves corrupt either. Your opinion is yours, his is his. Why should yours affect his life? Why should the billionaires' affect ours? Punch up to free all of us and save your moral bullshit for fertilizer.

" fuck off. " Classy argument. Back atcha.

You show zero greater contextual understanding.

If the corporatocracy oppresses your parents, their communities, and the nation, then it's a greater problem than just "the responsibility of the parents".

" Your impression that you have a greater contextual understanding is pure delusion. "

We all have our limits. At least I'm willing to be open to the possibility. I welcome anyone else who might like to chime in and back that up so that I might learn. However, I'm confident you're the delusional one in this matter.