CO2 levels passed 415 ppm and Reddit declared the world is about to end. Ironically greenhouses keep the ppm at 1500 for optimum plant growing.

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is not only the greenhouse effect, wich by the way isn't useful for a plenty of plant organisms. There is less rain to fall, so the plants that are still growing in the heat will die, too. And there is more: A lot of insects can't survive the change, but are the main source for feeding a lot of other creatures that will die then, too. The whole food chain is about to collapse and we can't hide from that, since we are still part of it. The end of the world (as we used to know the world) is in fact happening right now. It is a process that takes a time from our point of view, since we are just little bugs on the surface on this planet. As seen from above, it is all already lost.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I used to believe most everything you just stated.

However, I had not been notified that global warming stopped in the 97, and had been remarkably stable since then. "Man made global warming" literally stopped happening in 97.

Co2 has continued to dramatically rise since then (if you believe that parts per million can be considered dramatic increase). However, there has been no significant change in temp (for instruments that can't be tampered with). For 22 years...

If CO2 was a climate forcing factor, then we should see a linear increase in temp relative to the CO2 levels.

Fortunately, this hasn't been observed.

What has been observed are increases in climatologists climate model severity for future outcomes. These models have exploding with devastating predictions, that are far beyond anything were seeing in reality.
They are also routinely pushing out their predictions to start today, and severely occur in roughly 30 years. Yesterday's 30 year away impending doom, is 30 years in the future's impending doom. We were suppose to be underwater in 2020. These models are hoaxes.

All mathematical models are bad, but some models are useful.
Meaning that no model ever truly represents what is happening in reality, but some models are useful and can predict outcomes with reasonable reliability.

If a model cannot reliably predict outcomes, then it is worse than useless. These models exacerbate bad decisions.

The use of this type of pseudoscience modeling could be called "the garbage in, garbage out conjecture".

Current "climate models" have nothing to do with actual physical reality.

I haven't seen any strong evidence that CO2 is a climate forcing factor.

Curiously, the sun is treated as if it is continuously and uniformly stable. We know this can't be possible, because we have observed that other stars have tremendous activity.
Yet, we never discuss changes in the sun in terms of it's impact on the climate/weather.

As seen from above, it is all already lost.

Nothing is lost, yet.

There is a perfectly rationale reason for the continued use of these bogus models.
IMO the reason for this is actually much worse than the "global warming" threat.

[–]DrStrangelove 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Good breakdown, thank you. I was 100% onboard the global warming hysteria train since middle school (mid 90's) until it magically became the only socially acceptable opinion sometime in the last decade or so. I recently made the faux pas of hinting at my growing skepticism to my arm-chair liberal friends/family and might as well have clubbed a baby seal with a plutonium swastika... yet I'm the only one of the bunch who commutes to work on a bicycle.