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[–]agelmat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It's kind of funny to imagine millions upon millions of people with bigger brains than yours deciding to cover up a conspiracy.

Human caused Climate change is real. The only thing being debated how it's going to impact us or whether the impacts are negative or not.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Some people say that based on the data, we are now in the cooling cycle again.

There is no global warming, unless the sun starts flaring us.
A simple flare ((>100,000 Kelvin)) already has shown to raise the temperature a few degrees for a week.
Most (99%) of the other warming or cooling is caused by water in the air.
And then we have volcanoes causing huge changes, if they are active.

For some reason the solar activity happens in cycles,.
These cycles are not studied well because it is about electricity.
And the NASA and mainstream astronomers want to avoid that.

[–]agelmat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

And then we have volcanoes causing huge changes, if they are active.

You are willing to accept that volcanos can cause temperature increases. But some how the idea that the millions of factories that are like volcanoes that never stop erupting can't affect the climate. Amazing.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Huge outbursts of volcanoes can darken the sky for days. Still have to see a factory do that.
But indeed pollution is bad. In China cities were filled with smog until they started installing smog-removers.
Wars and deforestation are even more destructive.
But the influence of CO2 from factories is minimal. Plants and trees eat it to grow.

In practice we see earth getting warmer with less CO2 during the Covid Lockdowns, but the climate science is so bad,
that I think that they skipped the influence of the sun.
We also see less clouds during 9/11 due to less planes initiating clouds with their contrails.
The meltdowns of Fukushuma may have killed 90% of the live on the bottom of the sea (like sea stars), but I have to see more research for verification.

The World Economic Forum will massively destroy nature with their centralized planning, destructive GMO technology, immigration and industrialization. It would look worse than Shanghai and Chicago combined,, as it is the combination of both political systems.

[–]agelmat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

https://www.google.com/search?q=%20factory%20pollution%20darkens%20sky&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

Have a look at these nice photos of skies being blackened by factories.

You might want to get out of your basement more. Go see what goes on near industrial hell holes.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

We were talking about the climate yes? Or pollution?
Know that the WEF does not consider pollution a problem, even when it is destroying countries.

[–]agelmat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Climate change and pollution are related.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The sun is doing a lot of the climate change. Cycles of hot and cold correspond with the solar activity. We see on other planets too. The plasma from the sun reaching the earth is 10,000 K to 100,000 K

There are also some variations in the magma of earth. The earth is still hot in the center, because there are still nuclear reaction taking place. So iceland may freeze over if its lava flow stops. Or some place may become more volcanic again.

[–]agelmat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are you suggesting scientists didn't account for that data? Because they did. And it's still abnormally warmer.

Now whether we should unend our entire lives for this is the question. I don't think we need to but we definitely need to stop/lower pollution as much as is feasible

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No they removed the influence of the sun. They used a stupid trick for that. They claimed that the energy-output of the sun was constant, because the UV-light is close to constant.
But there are much more wavelengths and ways in which energy is transferred. The X-rays outbursts can cause some additional energy, but the solar wind appears to be the greatest influence.

The problem is that the climate science do not understand the sun. They do not even understand a lot of physics and chemistry. And in astronomy they are making a mess of it too.

Stopping Pollution needs a constructive solution. Not a destructive one. The problem is that the governments are all pushing for destructive solutions, because they are all paid by the big corporations. And those big corporations want to make money by pretending something is a solution, while it is not.

Example: A lot of "recycling" is just the export to 3rd world countries with less environmental and less health regulations. That is why they wanted to push the international "free trade" agreement, to make it impossible for countries to introduce better environmental or better health regulations.

Planting trees are a good solution, and downscaling big industry. Local farming. Local social economies are very good, because people start caring about each other and their surroundings. And people in such economies are often proud and caring of their town, forests or farm products.