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[–]iamonlyoneman 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

The longest-running survey in all of science is the Plankton Recorder folks. They show no decline.

The people backing this "research" here are literal environmentalist terrorists. I think I'll take my chances with the folks who have been doing this sort of study since before there was electricity.

[–]makesyoudownvote 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Any chance you have a link to that?

Do you mean the Continuous Plankton Recorder? If so, as far as I can tell they have no data past 2014 and a huge gap in data from 1982-2009.

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

fair enough. here's a paper covering the gap with ...drumroll... no decline https://academic.oup.com/plankt/article/34/1/83/1474154?login=false#aff-1

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for that. Is there any data past 2009 though?

This study is published in 2011 but only analyzes data up to 2009.

Again, I am not personally doubting you or anything, I am just anticipating dismissal from anyone I show this to and I know that would be the first thing they would go for.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was found on a quick googling tbqhwy. Data from the beginning to a handful of years ago being "green lights across the board" and then all of a sudden some nobody with a handful of samples from a limited area, backed by ecoterrorists, claims it's all "red lights flashing". It doesn't pass the smell test.

People who disagree will shit on the idea of reading Watts or his allies, the climate heretical people like May, but those who can look past a source at the story will find some reason for hope here https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/03/15/the-phytoplankton-decline-is-there-anything-to-it/

my favorite bit of that treatise encapsulates the idea nicely:

They also found that the bias was much higher in the Northern Hemisphere than in the Southern Hemisphere and that the pattern of the bias matched the pattern of the decline reported by Boyce, et al

GIGO, no cause for alarm. continue trying to be a good steward and fail to catch the panic from the latest 'red lights flashing' stories.