VideoAm I Wrong Or Does Civil Conflict Seem Inevitable Especially As The Culture War Escalates

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

On the one hand I think he has a point, but on the other hand talking about it too much (or in the wrong way) is one way to make a path straight toward it, so I'm conflicted about upvoting this. You know what I mean? Even this post itself is part of the escalation of the culture war in a way, you know?

I ended up upvoting though, I think it's better to have the discussion than to not have it.

[–]digitalfrost[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The thing is, we have people that cannot agree on reality anymore.

There no longer is a common accepted narrative. These paths diverged at the latest in 2016, and since then they are moving apart.

This will only get worse. And the longer this goes on, the more material there is where no agreement can be reached about what actually happened and who did what.

There is not even a basis for discussion. And when talking fails...

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's kind of being designed that way though, with the left and right wing medias having such separate existences. And the internet is only amplifying the "in-group effect" on the whole, it seems. People want to spend time online with those who agree with them, and the constant echo-chambers lead to warped worldviews

[–]spmasp 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Could you please elaborate on this? What parts of the narrative or th reality diverge in your opinion?

[–]digitalfrost[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trump. Is he racist or not. Many more things. After all he started this media escalation almost. Impeachment. Russia.

Germany. Chemnitz. Alleged hunts on foreigners. Verfassungsschutz leader Maaßen had to go because of this.

Climate change. Is it human made or not. Is it really all CO2s fault? If yes, wouldn't nuclear be one of the best solutions?

Currently in germany, discussion about right wing terrorism / extremists while completely ignoring anything else. At the same making the political enemy responsible for this by proxy, while ignoring any of the many examples where the same could be said about leftists.

There are so many dogmas that cannot be questioned, it's become a religion or a cult. To have a different opinion is heresy. And it's not just politics.

Facebook recently banned a group on the keto diet. Any controversy or different opinion is 'problematic' if not hate speech. What do others care what people put into their mouths?

Ask any NPC in germany what happend in Chemnitz. They'll repeat the fake news propaganda. This is what I mean. As time drags on and the sides disagree on more and more "facts" discussion will become impossible, because you need to backtrack more and more if any disagreement occurs.