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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Still killing about 1000 people a year though, and 50% are white too, so it's not like this only affects black people.

In Germany the police kill about 0.3 a year on average. In the UK it's about 1 a year. In the US it's 1000. One every 8 hours

[–]muellermeierschulz[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In Germany it's a bit higher (11 in 2018) but the difference is still huge. Brazil has 6.000 people per year and Venezuela 5.000 at only 30 Mio. population.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it is shameful that the US is closer to Brazil than Germany. Even if you adjust per-capita, it's probably still true.

[–]muellermeierschulz[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

According to the Washington Post database, a total of 41 unarmed people were shot and killed by US police in 2019. The racial composition of victims is:

White: 19 Black: 9 Hispanic: 6 Other: 4 Unknown: 3

Quelle: https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1267060056203427840

[–]spmasp 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First: Nice truncated graph. Surely completely accidental and in no way deliberately misleading.

Second: Some criminals are going to shoot the police. Thats bad, but the blame is on the criminal. On the other hand, police should never, ever kill unarmed people and if they do, they are fully to blame. So the tweet compares criminals with the police on a scale of "look, for two years now, the police is better than the criminals in a certain way." That is nothing to be proud of.

[–]muellermeierschulz[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

For every 10,000 black people arrested for violent crime, 3 are killed

For every 10,000 white people arrested for violent crime, 4 are killed

I'm going to keep tweeting this until someone can explain to me how this is possible if there is truly pervasive racial bias in policing

Quelle: https://twitter.com/LeonydusJohnson/status/1267466345844740098

[–]spmasp 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  1. Warum die Einschränkung für "violent crime"? Warum nicht allgemeine Verbrechen? In diesem Fall war es ja wohl kein gewalttätiges Verbrechen seitens des Opfers.
  2. Sollte man sich nicht eher auf Fälle beschränken, in denen sich das Opfer unbewaffnet war und/oder sich nicht gewehrt hat? Im Fall eines "Shoot-outs" ist es ja verständlich, wenn die Polizei denjenigen erschießt.
  3. "Racial bias" kann sich auch auf anderen Wegen zeigen als in getöteten Menschen pro Verhafteten.

Durch die beiden Einschränkungen scheint es mir, als habe jemand mit einer These angefangen und eine Statistik gesucht, die sie bestätigt, anstatt sich an Hand der Statistiken eine These zu bilden. Wenn man genug Statistiken sucht, findet man schon eine, die vermeintlich das bestätigt, was man schon vorher glaubte.