I want to hear your stories if you used to have gender dysphoria but it has gotten better somewhat or entirely.

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[–]Vulptex 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Then later I started reading about feminist topics, and I realized I had pushed myself into a trans box because I hated how I grew up, and hated how women were made to feel in my community. I did indeed "get over it", though there was more to it than that. These days I feel very embodied and mindful of myself as a woman in a positive way. I'm not trying to escape something I can't change.

I figured it was something like this, because it almost always is. That's not gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria would persist if you were stranded alone, actually it would get worse if anything because other people aren't around to distract you. That doesn't just go away. You would want to change even if it meant losing the social advantages. You were misled by the woke overly-affirming bandwagoning kids who insist on everything being a social construct. If that were the case and it were all about personality traits and gender roles and there are 19395069795827283960281 genders, then there's no reason for it to exist at all; except for kids who want a label to feel special, which is exactly what it is. Unfortunately this leads all the wrong people into transition, and young women are particularly susceptible since they're encouraged to express their identity constantly, especially in this time of wokeism and feminazism.

[–]TarshishJupiter[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Maybe I wasn't clear about the fact that I felt incredible physical dysphoria. How is that not real gender dysphoria? Just because it didn't last, or that being in a misogynistic community made it worse?

[–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's another way they mislead people. It's normal for adolescents to be uncomfortable with puberty and their changing bodies, and it's normal to be annoyed with the annoying features of your sex.

It's not normal when you hate the things everyone else is excited for (genuinely, not for social praise), and when this persists after puberty when everyone else has accepted and largely embraced them.

Secondly a lot of people mistake dysmorphia for physical dysphoria. In my experience dysmorphia is incredibly easy to induce with your imagination, plenty of people even feel like they have non-human body parts.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Physical gender dysphoria isn't different to dysmorphia. People aren't mistaking one for the other. Rather they are the same thing.

The belief that you are meant to be the other sex comes first and causes the physical side to take hold, not the other way round.

There are lots of roads to inducing gender dysphoria, social issues, puberty, fetish, internalised homophobia, abuse.

It's all still real gender dysphoria once you have it.

There is no one true innate gender dysphoria, that simply doesn't exist.

The feelings persisting after puberty just means you have developed a real mental health issue and likely have a personality disorder or autism driving it.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Physical gender dysphoria isn't different to dysmorphia. People aren't mistaking one for the other. Rather they are the same thing.

It's very difficult to understand unless you've experienced both, but they are not the same. I have really bad dysphoria over the mental changes which aren't even a body part.

The belief that you are meant to be the other sex comes first and causes the physical side to take hold, not the other way round.

It can cause dysmorphia for sure, but not the rest of it. And why would that belief be sparked in the first place in a properly functioning human?

There are lots of roads to inducing gender dysphoria, social issues, puberty, fetish, internalised homophobia, abuse.

What about the people who have had it since they were children? And I don't mean those confused trendy kids, I mean people who usually only figure it out later, if ever, and it doesn't go away.

The feelings persisting after puberty just means you have developed a real mental health issue and likely have a personality disorder or autism driving it.

And why do you think these are precisely the disorders which are linked to messed up hormones in brain development?

It's all still real gender dysphoria once you have it.

Then why do people detrans?

There is no one true innate gender dysphoria, that simply doesn't exist.

Then why not take a bunch of testosterone? What are you afraid of? Afraid you might not like what it'll do?