Sascha Bailey - son of iconic photographer David - describes how close he came to becoming a woman and fears for other young people like him: 'Society has a gun to its head. You're either for children changing their gender, or you are transphobic'

UncleWillard56 · 2024-01-23T15:56:32+00:00

You think you can't ruin your children by spoiling them? Guess again.

dissidentrhetoric · 2023-08-14T20:47:34+00:00

When I was 14 I was having the time of my life partying and kissing girls.

TitsAndWhiskey · 2023-08-14T14:43:18+00:00

So disgusting. And they’ll still pretend it doesn’t happen, that puberty blockers are 100% safe and reversible, and that detrans never happens and is a myth made up by TERFs.

You remember when those reddit mods were exposed grooming kids and absolutely nothing happened?

antares · 2023-06-07T08:41:53+00:00

Someone dying is now the worst consequence of HRT I have ever heard.

jet199 · 2023-01-06T22:23:59+00:00

To be fair I've also had a transexual tell me they actually were treated far better by men when they transitioned and were able to have committed, monogamous relationships which they weren't as a gay man.

Also they were raped twice when they presented as a man.

I think we just don't realise how horrible gay men often are to each other.

HongKongPhooey · 2023-01-06T19:30:03+00:00

I'm confused how anyone could be convinced of this, it's hard to be sympathetic frankly

cant_even · 2022-12-23T15:31:47+00:00

...science of gender care

Bring on the asteroid.

iamonlyoneman · 2022-10-03T02:13:07+00:00

Side effects aren't profitable until they affect the patient, so why mention them at all?

IkeConn · 2022-07-14T15:04:47+00:00

If you were injured in a sex change proceedure call the Law Offices Of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe. We will take your case and it won't cost you a dime until we recover damages. Then we'll take 50% plus $2 Million.

IkeConn · 2022-06-29T01:21:41+00:00

There will be a shitload of lawsuits going forward when these brainwashed "trannies" blame their medically fucked up bodies on "educators". They'll win.

Nullisect · 2022-05-13T10:28:28+00:00

no refunds

Caliban · 2022-05-10T16:53:36+00:00

Exactly, the more people that stop catering to their delusions and tell the truth the better.

Vulptex · 2022-05-02T03:36:12+00:00

Well it certainly poisoned me, I'll never even think clearly ever again.

Vulptex · 2022-04-17T01:48:56+00:00

"I'm glad you found your way back to reality" like that's a good thing. Not that it makes sense anyway, since the matrix border security makes North Korea look like a joke. But the whole world is drilling it into our heads that this place is good so we support it and the demons can keep using us to fulfill their sadistic urges. I swear the whole of human instinct and society is controlled by them, making everyone brainwashed enough to buy into their dumbest propaganda without question. Literally every problem is caused by reality and demons.

CleverFoolOfEarth · 2022-03-27T06:40:24+00:00

Agreed. I'm even only desisted, so for me it's little more than "dear Lord I was cringe as a young teenager, I thought I was nonbinary and wanted to dye my hair green", plus a few gender-bullshit-related intrusive thoughts I get in dark moments, and I'm still not gettin' those months I spent pretending to be something that doesn't exist back, nor the reputation I lost amongst my family from it.

Tiwaking · 2022-03-27T06:34:09+00:00

Thats not okay at all. You cant reverse a life changing decision with one medical procedure! You dont get all the time and brain power back that you spent regretting it.

jet199 · 2022-03-17T13:13:27+00:00

MS is also related to lack of vitamin D so being a basement dwelling incel might also be a factor here.

IkeConn · 2022-03-14T00:31:10+00:00

I know a young lady that was molested by her father and then her teachers convinced her she was gay. Now she's almost 30 and her body is ruined and she realized she is straight and now wants children.

CleverFoolOfEarth · 2022-02-18T17:37:28+00:00

These ones are real biological females. That think they're men. But have a fetish for getting called sexy girls for some reason. It's weird.

IkeConn · 2022-02-18T17:34:44+00:00

When they realize they will never be a real biological female no matter what they do they usually give up.

Tom_Bombadil · 2022-02-15T03:44:05+00:00

the smugness about entering women's spaces and the AGP is visible.

They're pulling off the impossible.

It's like a modern and twisted version of Porky's for those guys.

Tiwaking · 2022-02-14T21:16:32+00:00

jet199 4 insightful - 3 fun - 13 hours ago It definitely happens in all identity politics groups.

They have Game of Thrones style power struggles.

Gay of Thrones?

NoMorePatriarchy · 2022-02-14T16:58:40+00:00

Trans-identifying people are some of the most narcissistic and sociopathic people I know. If you look at a subreddit like r/transpassing or r/mtfselfietrain, the smugness about entering women's spaces and the AGP is visible.

Tom_Bombadil · 2022-02-14T14:24:35+00:00

especially lesbians who remain firm about not wanting to "suck girldick".

This isn't the behavior of an "oppressed" group (trans).
This is collective sociopathy.
Maybe even concentrated individual psychopathy.

Where's the consideration for kindred oppressed.

Although, it's not as easy to make the case that the community (in general) is oppressed (like it was +20 years ago).

Political interests (wealthy pedos) have hijacked a (formerly) justified movement.

The massive funding and media support came from somewhere.
Dirty money. :-/

jet199 · 2022-02-14T11:36:46+00:00

Sounds like a bitchy gay guy who got bitter over a straight crush preferring women to his bag of bones body.

jet199 · 2022-02-14T07:24:46+00:00

It definitely happens in all identity politics groups.

They have Game of Thrones style power struggles.

IkeConn · 2022-02-14T05:22:55+00:00

Sounds like the tranny was jealous of vaginas.

Tom_Bombadil · 2022-02-14T00:50:25+00:00

A "public servant" is pushing the agenda. Literally.

There it is. It's not a theory.

NoMorePatriarchy · 2022-02-13T22:29:35+00:00

Trans-identifying males, who are the ones in charge of pride groups, have a vendetta against lesbians, especially lesbians who remain firm about not wanting to "suck girldick". And it's in the nature of lesbians not to like dick -- a woman who does is likely straight or bi. This is why LGB people need to drop the T. TIMs are selling lesbians a new kind of conversion therapy.

Tiwaking · 2022-02-13T22:15:22+00:00

In 2018, then going by the name ‘Ava’, Pipitone was both president of Baltimore’s Transgender Alliance and an advocate for the global pimp lobby, the Sex Workers Outreach Project. In order to make the LGBTQ Commission as “inclusive” as possible, Pipitone was invited to their meetings by Mayor Pugh.

Global Pimp Lobby - How do I sign up for that?

Tom_Bombadil · 2022-02-13T21:53:33+00:00

But Instagram posts by Pipitone show that he no longer identifies as a lesbian woman, having quietly detransitioned. Instead, he now advertises himself as a techno-futurist, tagging his selfies “biohacker" and advertises his desire to "reverse engineer age."

Julia Beck slammed Pipitone in a recent Facebook post after having discovered he's dropped his ruse, claiming that he'd "traded one cult for another."

Having been a victim of Pipitone's temporary venture into her identity, Beck said, "It's fine to find yourself in life. If only the process for men like him didn't involve traumatizing women or pretending to be one."

On a separate, but related subject...

Who is kicking lesbians out of pride orgs??

Does this happen in other groups?

Can black people be kicked out of black groups??
Maybe.. if they marry a white woman. But probably not.

Melodic_Programmer · 2022-02-13T20:54:59+00:00

No, there are plenty of gay men and women who don't pretend to be the opposite gender. Don't conflate the two.

AmericanMuskrat · 2022-02-13T20:50:06+00:00

If we wouldn't let a 15 year drink a beer, smoke, or drive a car by themselves

We're not supposed to let 15yr olds do that? Shit, I am a terrible role model.

IkeConn · 2022-02-13T02:54:13+00:00

Thousands of kids mutilated after being brainwashed into being gay. I know one biological girl that won't admit her transition mistake due to pride.

What a shame we allowed 2% of the population to ruin so many young lives with LGBTQ+ fad bullshit.

I wish we could put the queers back in the closet.

NoMorePatriarchy · 2022-02-12T23:12:14+00:00

This is so sad and her words -- "Transition wasn’t the fix I needed and it couldn’t take away my mental health issues" -- are words lots of detransitioners, including myself, have said. Gender is a religious cult. We're told to explore our gender deities so they can take away all our troubles through expensive surgery. That's a lie, and one the government is pushing.

Antarchomachus · 2022-02-12T21:14:12+00:00

If we wouldn't let a 15 year drink a beer, smoke, or drive a car by themselves, why on earth would we let them do this to themselves

NoMorePatriarchy · 2022-02-11T20:08:03+00:00

Oh God, good God. When I was transitioning, I was given this advice all the time, and it very nearly pushed me down the wrong path.

This advice is absolutely delusional. Most of the attention for trans people is positive -- we always hear about the "courageous, stunning, beautiful transwoman". These people have a huge persecution complex.

Vulptex · 2022-02-08T19:05:17+00:00

Physical gender dysphoria isn't different to dysmorphia. People aren't mistaking one for the other. Rather they are the same thing.

It's very difficult to understand unless you've experienced both, but they are not the same. I have really bad dysphoria over the mental changes which aren't even a body part.

The belief that you are meant to be the other sex comes first and causes the physical side to take hold, not the other way round.

It can cause dysmorphia for sure, but not the rest of it. And why would that belief be sparked in the first place in a properly functioning human?

There are lots of roads to inducing gender dysphoria, social issues, puberty, fetish, internalised homophobia, abuse.

What about the people who have had it since they were children? And I don't mean those confused trendy kids, I mean people who usually only figure it out later, if ever, and it doesn't go away.

The feelings persisting after puberty just means you have developed a real mental health issue and likely have a personality disorder or autism driving it.

And why do you think these are precisely the disorders which are linked to messed up hormones in brain development?

It's all still real gender dysphoria once you have it.

Then why do people detrans?

There is no one true innate gender dysphoria, that simply doesn't exist.

Then why not take a bunch of testosterone? What are you afraid of? Afraid you might not like what it'll do?

jet199 · 2022-02-08T16:24:36+00:00

Physical gender dysphoria isn't different to dysmorphia. People aren't mistaking one for the other. Rather they are the same thing.

The belief that you are meant to be the other sex comes first and causes the physical side to take hold, not the other way round.

There are lots of roads to inducing gender dysphoria, social issues, puberty, fetish, internalised homophobia, abuse.

It's all still real gender dysphoria once you have it.

There is no one true innate gender dysphoria, that simply doesn't exist.

The feelings persisting after puberty just means you have developed a real mental health issue and likely have a personality disorder or autism driving it.

Vulptex · 2022-02-08T14:28:55+00:00

That's another way they mislead people. It's normal for adolescents to be uncomfortable with puberty and their changing bodies, and it's normal to be annoyed with the annoying features of your sex.

It's not normal when you hate the things everyone else is excited for (genuinely, not for social praise), and when this persists after puberty when everyone else has accepted and largely embraced them.

Secondly a lot of people mistake dysmorphia for physical dysphoria. In my experience dysmorphia is incredibly easy to induce with your imagination, plenty of people even feel like they have non-human body parts.

TarshishJupiter · 2022-02-08T13:32:27+00:00

Maybe I wasn't clear about the fact that I felt incredible physical dysphoria. How is that not real gender dysphoria? Just because it didn't last, or that being in a misogynistic community made it worse?

Vulptex · 2022-02-07T23:59:45+00:00

Then later I started reading about feminist topics, and I realized I had pushed myself into a trans box because I hated how I grew up, and hated how women were made to feel in my community. I did indeed "get over it", though there was more to it than that. These days I feel very embodied and mindful of myself as a woman in a positive way. I'm not trying to escape something I can't change.

I figured it was something like this, because it almost always is. That's not gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria would persist if you were stranded alone, actually it would get worse if anything because other people aren't around to distract you. That doesn't just go away. You would want to change even if it meant losing the social advantages. You were misled by the woke overly-affirming bandwagoning kids who insist on everything being a social construct. If that were the case and it were all about personality traits and gender roles and there are 19395069795827283960281 genders, then there's no reason for it to exist at all; except for kids who want a label to feel special, which is exactly what it is. Unfortunately this leads all the wrong people into transition, and young women are particularly susceptible since they're encouraged to express their identity constantly, especially in this time of wokeism and feminazism.

FuckYourMom · 2022-02-07T23:51:22+00:00

What is happening right now is a lot of mentally fucked people are joining groups who let you in if you claim to be part of that group. Comes with advantages like raping women.

AmericanMuskrat · 2022-01-26T17:04:06+00:00

I supported transgenderism until I was more exposed to it. My niece dated a "transmale" for a couple years. There was absolutely nothing masculine about her. She was a typical lesbian girl except she identified as a man for no discernable reason. I suspect because it was popular, got her attention, and she was awkward about growing boobs, which she bound.

Luckily she didn't cut anything off or permanently damage herself.

Tiwaking · 2022-01-26T08:28:27+00:00

Doctors getting subsidies for this treatment are evil and should lose their medical licenses.

I will never forget the taxi driver who had brought some fares to the meeting and, horrified at what he was hearing, asked if he could attend himself. There was something deeply moving about watching this big, burly man, voice breaking, visibly horrified at what society had allowed to happen to these young women.

Like many of us in that room I thought detransitioners, speaking publicly, would be the end of this madness, or at least the beginning of the end. In reality I don’t think it even stopped Dr Lorimer who is still touting his wares and mining profit from youthful insecurity.

IkeConn · 2022-01-25T01:24:48+00:00

The blue lefty democrats attract all kind of riff raff.

IkeConn · 2022-01-22T19:22:36+00:00

Oh please. I would love to watch the shit hit the fan. It's about time this LGBTQ+ fad ended.

Tiwaking · 2022-01-20T20:33:46+00:00

I agree with 41% of Troons

AmericanMuskrat · 2022-01-20T20:15:23+00:00

Heroin isn't an inherently long commitment either.

Popper · 2022-01-20T16:23:56+00:00

trying to convince impressionable kids

Vulptex · 2022-01-20T16:20:53+00:00

But then you have to live with it for the rest of your life.

FuckYourMom · 2022-01-10T03:15:52+00:00

And most gender dysphoria goes away.

IkeConn · 2021-12-21T21:31:16+00:00

If it's gone they can't sew it back on.

AmericanMuskrat · 2021-12-21T19:44:36+00:00

The thread if anyone wants to see the comments, they're not very entertaining. Kind of sad actually.

https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/rdfpbu/after_talking_to_a_friend_who_detransitioned_im/

Vulptex · 2021-12-20T03:49:10+00:00

If you're a feminine guy or a masculine girl who is uncomfortable with how society treats you based on your sex

And this is the problem.

jet199 · 2021-11-20T00:15:40+00:00

Human rights are being changed to accommodate this behaviour by queer theorists.

AmericanMuskrat · 2021-11-20T00:09:20+00:00

I don't think I used the word "crazy." That ultra liberal teachers have taken it upon themselves to queerify their students doesn't eliminate the issues with homeschooling.

We do need to purge those teachers though.

FuckYourMom · 2021-11-19T22:07:34+00:00

This is a violation of human rights.

Melodic_Programmer · 2021-11-19T21:19:06+00:00

You still think homeschooling is crazy?

AmericanMuskrat · 2021-11-19T17:10:21+00:00

This will affect our entire society as we attempt to pick up the pieces of the children and families who were attacked by the hideous lie that our children were born in the wrong bodies.

Poor kids, they're never getting those years back.

IkeConn · 2021-11-15T03:55:31+00:00

Why do queers spend so much time and money trying to convice regular people that they are normal. They are not normal and children are being brainwashed that being queer is cool. It's like a 1970's fad on steroids.

Node · 2021-11-13T08:21:06+00:00

Therapists serve “populations”

The moment it dawned on me that detransitioners are a brand new population, my whole body tingled.

Okay, Stephanie.

jet199 · 2021-11-13T00:21:12+00:00

I've not seen any detrans person describe themselves like that.

Phrases like "medical malpractice", "still tackling the issue transitioning helped me avoid" and "extreme PTSD" are more common.

Tiwaking · 2021-11-12T17:30:43+00:00

they are courageous role models walking heroes journeys we can all learn from.

Whoever wrote this article is completely retarded

AmericanMuskrat · 2021-11-12T06:47:04+00:00

they are a brand new, rapidly growing population that has yet to be adequately understood and helped by acupuncturists.

Sounds pretty ridiculous when put like that but therapy is about as effective, and I don't mean that in a good way.

jet199 · 2021-11-05T11:14:54+00:00

Intersex people aren't trans.

Ladyboys are gay men in a homophobic society.

Noam_Chomsky · 2021-11-05T00:50:19+00:00

Agreed. Dismemberment is irreversible.

worried19 · 2021-11-04T21:53:00+00:00

Archive link for anyone hitting the paywall.

AmericanMuskrat · 2021-11-04T20:09:48+00:00

There's no one trapped in the wrong gender

Maybe. I allow it may be present in the really rare ones, the intersex, and the thai/ pinoy lady bois doing it before it was a social fad/kink. Could happen.

They usually only become trans if abuse is involved as they blame their bodily sex for attracting their abusers

The girl my niece dated, I always always suspected she wanted to be a boy because getting tits and unwanted attention from boys scared her.

Node · 2021-11-04T20:01:43+00:00

I meant 'forgiveness' in the sense of forgiving a loan, where the need for repayment is canceled and wiped clean.

Once you cut your tits or dick off, it's pretty hard to revert to the 'before' state. Those malfunctioning people can acknowledge what they've done to themselves, but they can't restore their missing parts.

They still have an opportunity to ask for forgiveness from those who tried to help them, but were rejected.

They made their decision. Are they now saying they're not qualified to make decisions about their own life? Sounds like yet another episode in a continuing series of self-dishonorments.

jet199 · 2021-11-04T18:00:28+00:00

There's no one trapped in the wrong gender.

I myself was desperate to be a boy my whole childhood but the feeling completely disappeared at 16. This is completely normal for gender non conforming kids. Sexuality and gender (personality as well) are established over the whole process of growing up and the hormones involved, not just at birth. Even the ones who don't desist at puberty usually find they can live as gender non conforming adults just fine without being trans.

They usually only become trans if abuse is involved as they blame their bodily sex for attracting their abusers. One famous HSTS in the UK just public a whole book about him being a rent boy being passed around and raped by adult men at 14. Another HSTS I speak to has said he was raped twice by gay men before he transitioned and has had no problems since so no way is he going back to presenting as male even through he knows now he's not born in the wrong body.

Noam_Chomsky · 2021-11-04T13:59:18+00:00

There's no forgiveness or 'do-overs' for moronic acts that endanger or end ones continued existence.

Forgiveness is always an option.

In this case, it's up to those unfortunate people who suffer from self-induced injuries.

They still have an opportunity to forgive themselves.

They still have an opportunity to ask for forgiveness from those who tried to help them, but were rejected.

Confront the demons. Rise above it.

Then atone. Rescue others who are lost inside themselves.
Show them how to find the way forward; when they're ready..

LPT.

Node · 2021-11-04T04:14:54+00:00

There are no innocents. It's the prime responsibility of all living entities to act in their own best interests. There's no forgiveness or 'do-overs' for moronic acts that endanger or end ones continued existence.

And outside of human interference with a child or infant, no one is trapped in a body of the wrong sex.

AmericanMuskrat · 2021-11-04T02:02:39+00:00

She used to be a pretty girl too. I don't know how people can encourage this. For every real honest to goodness trapped in the wrong gender person (assuming there are some) there are so many pedos, kinksters, and innocent kids who just get caught up in the fad.

IkeConn · 2021-10-26T04:08:23+00:00

I'd like to see Pete Buttigieg turn into a tranny. I think it is possible for him to make it to an all new level of ugly.

worried19 · 2021-06-02T03:26:15+00:00

AfterEllen's content was deleted with no warning last year, so here's an archived version:

https://web.archive.org/web/20201107214355/https://afterellen.com/general-news/577203-how-to-welcome-our-detransitioned-sisters-in-lesbian-community

reluctant_commenter · 2021-05-31T05:24:42+00:00

Discussion about LGB detransitioners on s/LGBDroptheT: https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/7xd8/60_minutes_episode_on_detransitioners_backlash/

Airbus320 · 2021-03-01T23:05:07+00:00

Fully agree

grixit · 2021-03-01T23:00:46+00:00

another concept that needs to be reclaimed.

Airbus320 · 2021-03-01T19:21:02+00:00

Stunning and brave

bobbobbybob · 2021-02-28T06:43:45+00:00

commenting to raise visibility amongst the trans people in saidit

jet199 · 2020-12-30T20:44:07+00:00

Apparently this person is deathly allergic to chocolate so the kid put chocolate extract in her shower gel.

lmaonope333 · 2020-09-26T22:42:25+00:00

if you're homosexual, if you're female, you need to get over internalized homophobia and internalized misogyny. get out of trans internet forums. dress the way you feel comfortable, but focus on hobbies and productive activities instead of focusing on the way you look

questioningtw · 2020-09-17T17:31:33+00:00

The hell? It is scary as hell that this person has completely normalized their abuse.

questioningtw · 2020-09-17T16:53:05+00:00

One thing the trans crowd loves to do is act like detransitioners are only detransitioning because of transphobia. It is interesting how they want their agency respected; but don't really respect others agency.

ANIKAHirsch · 2020-09-13T02:21:05+00:00

What I'm saying is true. Believe it or don't.

worried19 · 2020-09-13T02:19:21+00:00

Never mind. This is obviously a lost cause.

ANIKAHirsch · 2020-09-13T02:18:15+00:00

I can sex most individuals from facial structure.

This one's not hard.

worried19 · 2020-09-13T02:17:17+00:00

Are you some kind of conspiracy theorist?

https://mymajicdc.com/3541071/r-kellys-daughter-comes-out-as-transgender-boy

ANIKAHirsch · 2020-09-13T02:10:21+00:00

Yes. I think that's pretty obvious.

The vocal sample proves it.

As does Instagram removing the old posts..

worried19 · 2020-09-13T02:00:00+00:00

I have no clue what you're talking about. She was born female. Jaya Kelly, came out as trans in 2014 and started calling herself Jay, currently goes by Jaah. At least as of 2019.

Are you saying this child was born male?

ANIKAHirsch · 2020-09-13T01:21:01+00:00

The fact that it's a lesbian... not true.

worried19 · 2020-09-13T01:18:44+00:00

I'm completely confused. What cover up?

ANIKAHirsch · 2020-09-12T22:25:25+00:00

Male child:

https://ionemadamenoire.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/15629378855235.jpg?w=900&h=641

He wasn't supposed to admit this. That's the reason for the cover-up.

worried19 · 2020-09-12T03:31:04+00:00

Sorry, I don't follow?

ANIKAHirsch · 2020-09-12T03:30:06+00:00

Cover-up. It's a male.

denverkris · 2020-09-11T17:12:46+00:00

I was basically the same. Insisted i was a boy, took off my bathing suit top because that's what boys did, refused to wear dresses or play with dolls (which apparently caused my mother a great deal of distress). It got really difficult in my early teens when I looked very much like a boy, as this made a lot of the other kids a bit uncomfortable when they realized I wasn't one. Puberty through college was certainly not the most fun time, but I'm perfectly well adjusted these days. I have never been "feminine", even work in a traditionally male field. I'm just stubborn I suppose, and was determined to do what i wanted to do how i wanted to do it. I personally don't see how pretending to be something you aren't helps, but for adults, i say do as you please.

jet199 · 2020-09-11T13:50:23+00:00

If you are reading about R Kelly's family and your biggest concern is his daughter being a lesbian then it's you who's the abomination.

High_and_Lonesome · 2020-09-11T02:48:22+00:00

I don't think I've ever agreed with n article harder.

worried19 · 2020-09-11T02:04:46+00:00

I'm your classic example of a child distressed by gender at a very early age. If someone wants to label that social dysphoria, I started experiencing it at age 3 and it really peaked at age 5. This was before people were transitioning little kids, of course. So I just a tomboy who lived and basically "passed" as a boy.

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