Is supporting collectivism over individualism a sign of lower IQ?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's kind of funny, allowing people to become the best version of themselves should be a goal of a collectivist (greater good-oriented) society, e.g. Nazi Germany and the results of aligning the state and the individual towards common and mutually beneficial outcomes,

That's pretty much it, and the crux of what I was debating another user about.

The smartest people in Germany put their differences aside so they could create a society where every citizen could help advance the state. The result was a country that excelled in every genre. I.e Science, Math, the Olympics, Healthcare, Entertainment, Safety, Social Trust, Infrastructure etc.

[–]Nombre27 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, it's very interesting sociologically.

There is a class warfare aspect amongst this, both in the capitalistic "keep up with the Joneses" (spend spend spend, i.e. waste your life on bullshit) and communistic (the state has to take your property to redistribute to people that hate you cuz reasons).

Because of the consequences of WW2, we're (most Western countries) literally living in the worst of both worlds when it comes to the benefits and consequences of capitalism and socialism.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

we're (most Western countries) literally living in the worst of both worlds when it comes to the benefits and consequences of capitalism and socialism.

Shrewd observation. Very accurate. Here we both waste our lives on bullshit while simultaneously, the government wants to take my money and give it to niggers.