Why deny the holocaust but believe in the Holodomor hoax?

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[–]jacques1102[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Read the works of Israel Shamir who also denies the holocaust.He's done plenty of research on both subjects. > https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/18/pol-pot-revisited/ Also i thought you people claim hitler was trying to save europe from the jews?That's why he invaded several european countries.He wanted them gone from europe.So were suppose to believe that hitler was ok with killing millions of europeans but let the jews live so he could deport them?What sense does that make?If the war had nothing to do with jews then why did hitler bring up the jews and blame them for europe's problems?If the war was about imperialistic goals because of losing territory in WW1 why the fuck would jews lie about a random holocaust if said war had nothing to do with jews?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Read the works of Israel Shamir who also denies the holocaust.He's done plenty of research on both subjects

I'll stick to my original belief that if you think Socialist countries are paradise where no one starves or dies, then go live there. I'm not going to stop you or their way of life. Just don't complain when it turns out these nations suck and you beg for refugee status...

If the war was about imperialistic goals because of losing territory in WW1 why the fuck would jews lie about a random holocaust if said war had nothing to do with jews?

Because there's an entire profitable industry built around victimhood. Not to mention, the religious aspect as well of Jews seeing themselves as the children of god. Hitler basically ripped off the band-aid that said no person on Earth could ever stand up to Jews and get away with it while also running a nation that demonstrated huge success by rejecting globalism and valuing race.

It actually doesn't get anymore clear than that. The world after 1945 has gotten increasingly dark and grim. With no more positive role models who would rather put nation first over pure profit and slavery, we quickly approach the end game of a global dystopia ran by an elite group who can't be criticized because of "antisemitism".

[–]jacques1102[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Because there's an entire profitable industry built around victimhood. Not to mention, the religious aspect as well of Jews seeing themselves as the children of god. Hitler basically ripped off the band-aid that said no person on Earth could ever stand up to Jews and get away with it while also running a nation that demonstrated huge success by rejecting globalism and valuing race. Kinda like how Christians do the same thing.Muh 100 trillion deaths by communism.You do also know that Christians see themselves as children of God as well and believe anyone who denies Christ is going to hell.Also a successful nation by sending his people to fight in a war for his imperialistic goals.Yeah that sounds like a man that loves his people.As for your last part, funny because people claim the world only got shitty after 9/11.I thought y'all claim the 50s was the greatest generation to live?Your last part is pointing out the problems with Capitalism not jews.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You do also know that Christians see themselves as children of God as well and believe anyone who denies Christ is going to hell.

You mean exclusively? I'm not a Christ fan but no I've never heard them say they have a special relation with god. That would also sound extremely redundant, when Christianity accepts converts with zero hesitation. Judaism is much more reserved and club like.

.Also a successful nation by sending his people to fight in a war for his imperialistic goals.Yeah that sounds like a man that loves his people.

If he thought his nation was coming close to being attack, or being subjugated by a foreign power, then he still obviously loved his people.

As for your last part, funny because people claim the world only got shitty after 9/11.I thought y'all claim the 50s was the greatest generation to live?

There's an argument that 9/11 was one of the long term consequences of WW2. As for 50s being the greatest generation to live? Not sure who said that? I only acknowledge that life back then was more comfortable. Housing was affordable, marriages were stable, zero gay propaganda etc. But not perfect, as it was still part of the Cold War and both the U.S and Soviets had started overthrowing countries they didn't like.

Your last part is pointing out the problems with Capitalism not jews.

Here's a fact that will blow your mind. Jews can be Capitalists. And many of them are making the world a worse place.

[–]jacques1102[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"If he thought his nation was coming close to being attack, or being subjugated by a foreign power, then he still obviously loved his people". By that logic, if trump believed america was close to being attacked by Mexico then he should invade all of North America then.Also, how is 9/11 a long term consequence of WW2?What does muslim terrorist have to do with it?Unless you believe in the conspiracy that Israel and jews did it then why would jews wait 56 years to attack america to then blame muslims?As for your last part,right!Just like everyone else can be Capitalists as well.It's not a jewish only economic system.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

By that logic, if trump believed america was close to being attacked by Mexico then he should invade all of North America then.

Given how sucky Mexico's (and the rest of Latin America's) lack of border control that enables millions of illegal immigrants to flood the USA, this conspiracy theory would not be wrong.

Although I prefer to argue that these nations are incompetent, rather than plotting the demise of the U.S.

Once again, Britain, France and the Soviets were far from innocent actors prior to WW2 and they all acted within their colonial or ideological interests.

.Also, how is 9/11 a long term consequence of WW2?

Because Afghanistan (the country that was seen as the host of al-Qaeda) had previously been involved in wars with the Soviet Union. Osama Bin Laden also cited U.S support of Israel as a motivating factor for terror attacks (a country birthed after WW2 from former British territory).

Hmmm, noticing a pattern here?

Just like everyone else can be Capitalists as well.It's not a jewish only economic system.

Except non-Jewish capitalists don't have antisemitism to shield themselves from criticism.