Will 3D-printing erase men and women?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

What if the 3D-printed "organs" are functional? Will trans men with 3D-printed "male organs" become men? And will trans women with 3D-printed "female organs" become women? Will sex change or lose all meaning in the future?

Gender differences are much more skin deep. It's DNA for why aggression levels, voices, IQ are not all the same.

Printing out organs and attaching them to biologically born males or females would just make them Cyborgs or Frankenstein's Monster.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Sex, not gender in this case.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

So I had to look up what this means.

https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html

Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed.

Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people.

Well that's a new one to me. And it even feels redundant.

For example, if I say Football is a male dominated sport then clearly it has something to do with biology. Teams are never mixed, and attempting to add someone who identifies as female would put themselves at a disadvantage given the amount of physical activity involved...

And the same is true for a Trans person who goes frankenstein and adds male or female body parts. Their brain is still biologically male or female when they were born.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You've never heard the "gender is a social construct" meme before?

Also male and female brains is a trans talking point.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Also male and female brains is a trans talking point.

Edit: If a Trans person claims to have been born in the wrong body, I would classify that as simply having a mental disorder. Just like if I claim to be a Chicken, genes would still say I have a human brain and not a bird...

I'll admit though, it could be possible these people were born with a certain genetic imbalance. But the solution should be therapy instead of glorifying of Gayness or mutilating body parts.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No because if there's no gendered brains there's no basis for gender other than sex. If there are it follows that someone can end up with the wrong kind by some error. You have it backwards.

It's naive to think men are better soldiers because they're meaner. Men are better soldiers because they're stronger, obviously. If anything I think women are actually slightly crueler than men, and the military seems to agree seeing how all their torturers are women. I don't think that's biological either, but rather because society lets women get away with a lot more. Women are certainly perceived as fairer, but only because of our crappy reproductive economy giving them all the worth in nature's eyes. Notice how women get only 1/6 of the sentence a man does for the exact same crime, and it's never a big deal and people even defend her most of the time if the victims are male.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If there are it follows that someone can end up with the wrong kind by some error. You have it backwards.

I justify this by saying that they're mentally ill. I'm not against the idea that abnormalities in nature can exist. We have other examples such as people born with extra fingers, learning disabilities or retardedness. The mistake is when society tries to glorify these illnesses instead of calling them out for being weird or seeking treatment for them.

Women are certainly perceived as fairer, but only because of our crappy reproductive economy giving them all the worth in nature's eyes. Notice how women get only 1/6 of the sentence a man does for the exact same crime, and it's never a big deal and people even defend her most of the time if the victims are male.

My answer might sound unscientific, but I can understand the reasoning for this is Women are definitely less of a threat. As you point out, society lets them get away with stuff but remember who created society? Men did.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well duh it's an illness. Actually that's not strong enough, it's a disease. A horrible one. Unfortunately there is no working treatment for it other than denial.

But you were saying the trans position implies that there are no gender differences in the brain. That doesn't make any sense, it relies on them. On the other hand, if they're the same, how can anyone's internal gender differ from their sex if the former doesn't exist?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

These activists support the idea that gender is suppose to be fluid or a social construct. It's the only way they support denial like letting trans athletes compete in sports if there where no hard differences.

However, I believe everything is biological or at least has a reason that comes from genes. These ideas fly in the face of "equality/diversity" that Social Activists want to remove.

It's the exact same with race. Radical ideas like Affirmative Action or Reparations only exists when you deny that Race differences come from internally and not the environment. Thus race is something you're born with and not a "construct".

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don't want equality. They want minority supremacy. Since when are reparations equality?

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Tldr; It's helpful to know that someone being trans/non-binary is an output of gender, but what lies within their body is their sex.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gender is not a thing

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What really needs to happen is the universe simulation needs to be shut down. All it is is a cruel mind experiment.