Some people say alt-right ideas are wrong. What is the information about them being wrong?

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[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There are a lot of ways to answer this question. Many have engaged in debate, or have presented responses to alt-right arguments. For those who don't come up with answers, it may be because they don't know much or go about "don't debate the alt-right" method, because of what they see of this movement, or because of some allegedly shady debate tactics, or because they don't know or care much for what is said.

[–]panel30[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thanks for the reply. Sorry if OP isn't very clear.

I know people have their reasons for debating or not in whatever style they do. I didn't intend to question or challenge that with OP.

Just asking that if someone does want to, presenting the information in a fairly straightforward way is something I'd like and find helpful right now. Links to previous discussions/information would be welcome too since you mentioned those.

It's not just the alt-right, it's with a lot of things. "conspiracy" things too. "that sounds strange," "you're bad for thinking that," etc. Sure people can say that if that's what they want to say or how they want to deal with it. But it's also understandable that someone would want just a normal straightforward explanation of why it's wrong.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It is wrong because:
1) It helps white people, which is detrimental to other races, especially jews
2) It doesn't help jews
3) Since jews are in power in the west, they suppress the native population and import foreigners to keep their power
4) Anti semitism is needed for jews in the west to feel the need to move to Israel, which is one of the goals of zionism
5) It is desirable for nonwhites to move to white countries to get the resources of whites
6) Reproducing with whites is good for the offspring of nonwhite individuals as they benefit from the white gene pool, ie. IQ, etc.
7) Homosexuality is good for the parasite causing homosexuality because it increases the spread of the parasite
8) Usury is good because it transfers wealth from whites to jews
9) Taxes are good because it is a way to transfer money to nonwhites and it also gives control of a huge portion of whites production wages to the jews.

And so on

[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is because of the framing of the "conspiracy" angle. It would be a benefit to have more intellect on this side, but there unfortunately seems to be a loop inbetween people disregarding our ideas and quashing anyone who steps up.