Less than half of England and Wales population Christian, Census 2021 shows

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63792408

For the first time fewer than half of people in England and Wales describe themselves as Christian, the Census 2021 has revealed. The proportion of people who said they were Christian was 46.2%, down from 59.3% in the last census in 2011. In contrast the number who said they had no religion increased to 37.2% of the population, up from a quarter. Those identifying as Muslim rose from 4.9% in 2011 to 6.5% last year. People were also asked about their ethnic group and national identity - the responses of which were released in the results just published. The census is carried out every 10 years by the Office for National Statistics (ONS). People were asked the broad question what their religion was rather than being asked more specifically about their beliefs or religious practices, in the voluntary question included in the census since 2001. Ticking "no religion" does not mean having no beliefs, says Prof Linda Woodhead, from King's College London. "Some will be atheist, a lot will be agnostic - they just say, 'I don't really know' - and some will be spiritual and be doing spiritual things." she said. Separately when people were asked about their ethnic group, 81.7% of residents in England and Wales identified as White, down from 86.0% a decade earlier, according to the census. And 74.4% of the total population identified as White as well as English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British. The next most common ethnic group was Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh accounting for 9.3% of the overall population - 5.5 million people, up from 4.2 million. The number of people identifying as Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African was 2.5% of the population, up from 1.8%, taking the figure from 990,000 to 1.5 million. One in 10 of households across England and Wales are now made up of people from two or more different ethnic groups - an increase from 8.7%. And Luton, Birmingham and Leicester. are among 14 areas in England where people identifying as White are now in the minority. In terms of national identity, among those who described it as not being the UK, the most common response was Polish, followed by Romanian.

On one hand, I was never a fan of Christianity, and see it as just as much as a Middle Eastern invasion as Judaism and Islam are.

But on the other, it's obvious that whatever else will fill the vacuum could be much, much worse and lead to further cultural rot.

I honestly wish Europe had stuck to its own native religions instead of having to rely on these forced imported ones.

Or even better, create a new religion that supports blood and soil, like what Ben Klassen did.

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[–]IslamofascistDeath to America, Death to Israel, Death to The Ukraine 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

On one hand, I was never a fan of Christianity, and see it as just as much as a Middle Eastern invasion as Judaism and Islam are.

But on the other, it's obvious that whatever else will fill the vacuum could be much, much worse and lead to further cultural rot.

I honestly wish Europe had stuck to its own native religions instead of having to rely on these forced imported ones.

Or even better, create a new religion that supports blood and soil, like what Ben Klassen did.

You can't "create a new religion". A true religion can be revealed by a Prophet from God, but not invented. Following an invented religion which everyone believes to be invented is just stupid LARP. I have more respect for atheists than pagan LARPers.

Also, no one forced Christianity on England. The Anglo-Saxon kings were willingly converted to Christianity by Christian monks, beginning with King Ethelbert of Kent who converted shortly after Augustine of Canterbury's mission arrived in 597. And regardless if you are a Christian or not, it's obvious that Christianity had a positive influence on many aspects of civilization, especially when it came to family life, regulating sexuality, and keeping a check on social violence. Ever since Christianity has been overtaken by its heretical grandchildren like Liberalism and Communism, Western civilization has gone to shit.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting how most of the things you mentioned Christianity doing are not found anywhere in the Bible. Even the sexual rules mostly turn out to be mistranslations or misinterpretations.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

At some point the LARP becomes real. Christianity was a unpopular desert cult that only became successful because a Roman emperor forced it upon its subjects and the peoples they conquered. The council of Nicaea is the ultimate LARP of a bunch of people convening around what books would be curated into what is called the bible. The people that create the religion are faking it while it is real for the followers.

[–]IslamofascistDeath to America, Death to Israel, Death to The Ukraine 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I myself reject the Nicene Creed and consider it to be theological corruption, but yes, a religion can still "work" if only a handful of people know that the creed is fake while the rest of society genuinely believes in the religion without knowing or caring about the fine points of theology and any possible corruption that might have taken place. But it's pretty much impossible for a phenomenon like that to exist in the modern world.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Christianity was a cult based on Greek philosophy and popular around the Mediterranean, not in the desert.

[–]Oyveygoyim 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But the replacement theory is just a silly conspiracy theory...

Israel isn't allies with anyone. They are enemy #1 for every country in the world. Filthy human cockroaches.

[–]purelingot 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

England is the mother of the Great Whore and this calamity was only a matter of time, it is not at all surprising. The poor Queen (bless her soul) has dodged a bullet by passing before the madhouse is finally set on fire.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Oi!

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    [–]purelingot 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    More like a gang of whores and abominations of all kinds.

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      [–]Mr9to5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      For a good place for a starting point, of how our struggle today connects to paganism, I recommend two great books:

      Memories and Reflections of an Aryan Woman by Savitri Devi (no English translation is on sale that I know of but it’s available online)

      On Being A Pagan by Alain de Benoist

      These works both are metapolitical and try to articulate a pagan ethos.

      Here in the US, Asatru Folk Assembly has basically absorbed a broad landscape of folkish, nationalist and reactionary pagan groups. They are international and have some overseas chapters. People agree and disagree with different things they do but most everyone I know considers them honorable and serious at what they do.

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      and the ones I've looked into seem to be just as universalist and pro-globohomo as modern Christianity is.

      Asatru Folk Assembly and Rune Gild

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Here's a take on Norse paganism by a Muslim, from 29mins in.

      https://play.acast.com/s/the-rest-is-history-podcast/archive-the-vikings-and-the-birth-of-kyiv

      [–]Mr9to5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I mean, I kind of had a Klassen reaction to this when I saw it earlier. Islam has not grown exponentially, which is good because if we keep it under control, the Muslim birth rate alone won’t flood out the true British. It is probably more important for European countries that Islam stays weak than that European religions strengthen.

      Secularism grew and that seems like it is only more people being honest with themselves that they don’t really care about their nominal churches. The problem with the UK is they saw how close the BNP came to reaching the mainstream in the 2000s and are trying to annihilate any free expression once and for all. When I first considered identifying as secular during that period, one of the first consequences was I lost all guilt about expressing our ideas - but people still have to know the ideas to endorse them.