How do you respond to this argument made by this anti white on reddit?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This is a frequent argument I see them make. What is the best counter or rebuttal to it?

Tell them to go back to Mexico.

They deliberately crossed into another country that's full of White people, but then bitch that they're not being treated like one. So why the hell did they move there in the first place?

But of course, they know the truth. It's better to live "oppressed" under Whites, than to be "free" in a Brown one.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

The issue with the go back to the go back to argument in relation to central and southern americans is that they can pull the Whites replaces the Natives card as well as point out how the US Government/CIA crusade against communism in those regions during the cold war lead to destabilization and the poverty forcing these types to want to migrate to the US.

[–]saiditkang 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So by that logic Arabs from countries like Iraq, Syria and Libya should be able to immigrate to Israel because Israel fucked their countries up. Do you think they should be able to flood Israel in order to make up for what Neocons/zionists did to their home countries?

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I do not believe that, just highlighting an argument they commonly use.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The issue with the go back to the go back to argument in relation to central and southern americans is that they can pull the Whites replaces the Natives card

Whites didn't move into a country called "Native America". In fact, it was many different tribes who were still stuck in the stone ages, that had enslaved and gone to war against each other for centuries.

Europeans simply bested them in their own traditions and founded the United States after this fact.

Now, would it have been nice if Whites & Natives didn't clash? Sure. But this was 300+ years ago when the entire world was still competing for land. In 2022, that is not the case where borders are already established.

as well as point out how the US Government/CIA crusade against communism in those regions during the cold war lead to destabilization and the poverty forcing these types to want to migrate to the US.

Japan got nuked two times and was occupied by America for almost a decade. Yet today they're a thriving 1st world country.

Also, it wasn't just the USA who messed with them. People often forget the Soviet Union was just as active in the region, yet why aren't Mexicans swimming to Russia right now?

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    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Then they can go live in Mexico or Paraguay which already have significant Amerindian populations.

    The USA or Canada aren't the only pieces of land that make up the Americas. There's plenty of room elsewhere if they really cared instead of fighting a battle they lost centuries ago.

    They also have the Reserves, which I'm fine with leaving alone. But giving up half of Canada or U.S territory is just never going to happen.

    [–]LolNoU 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The key thing to identify in this type of argument is the role of liberal ideology in obfuscating power relations. Liberals frame this issue as a moral one, i.e. that it is immoral to have a border patrol that repels immigrants with the (sometimes realized) threat of force. That's not what it is. It's one of power relations. Letting all of these immigrants in politically, socially, and economically disempowers White Americans. We should therefore restrict immigration because it's in our interest to do so.