Not altright but trying to understand your perspective.

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Like what do you mean with Aryan?

People descended from the people who called themselves Aryans

Also, what do you define as white?

European, the line is pretty much at the beginning of the Islamic/Arabic/MENA world

B/c I am 100% European-American, and I have some Ancestry that wasn't considered white in the past.

According to whom? Jews made this shit up very recently about muh non-white Italians and Irish.

If you were to create a nation with people that looked similar, how would you guys qualify it?

I'd take all the people who jews want to genocide and have made it not only legal but mandatory to discriminate against, everyone else isn't allowed.

[–]gloomy_bear[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Okay. So you mean the Western Steppe Herders as Aryan, and anybody that is white is European. Alright I understand your POV now. I've heard in history that at one point that Irish-Americans and Iberian-Americans weren't considered white in the late 19th-Early 20th century, and had signs that said "No Irish No Blacks No Dogs" on business signs. I have Portuguese as the #2nd most common DNA on my DNA test I took, and I have mainly Irish-American ancestors on my family tree. Although they converted to Christianity and it's on my dad's side, I have a few Jewish surnames going on around my family tree, and it's not a ton of ancestors. I would say if I had made a huge family tree, it would be only 1% out of hundred thousands, if not millions and billions.

I would say I am probably one of those people, considering I've been called privileged despite them not knowing my life story. I've also been discriminated against, ironically by another white a decade ago, but thankfully, haven't been in any other issues ever since.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

So you mean the Western Steppe Herders as Aryan

I would say everyone descended of them is Aryan, but not those simply conquered by them IE white people are Aryan. Indians, Iranians etc who mixed with them are only partially Aryan as only the upper castes of their societies were Aryans IE they were just ruled over by Aryans. There isn't a large genetic distinction in Europe between the Aristocratic bloodlines and the commoners, although there obviously are blood/family/dynasty distinctions. If, for example, you compared the genetic distance between Brahmin and Shudra in India and compared it to Aristocrats and commoners in Germany or England you would find that the Brahmin and Shudra are basically completely different peoples whereas Aristocrats and commoners are both descended of the same people within Europe.

I've heard in history that at one point that Irish-Americans and Iberian-Americans weren't considered white in the late 19th-Early 20th century, and had signs that said "No Irish No Blacks No Dogs" on business signs.

This was due to jews whipping up anti-Catholic hysteria in the Protestant population, not because Europeans didn't consider each other white.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This was due to jews whipping up anti-Catholic hysteria in the Protestant population, not because Europeans didn't consider each other white.

I've noticed none of their arguments even include basic biology for why would they be seen as non-white?

Irish and Italians can intermarry and have offspring that look 100% identical to other Europeans. The same is true with their culture. Italy was literally the seat of Roman history. And Ireland today is just as advanced as their British cousins.

Any prejudices that Europeans had towards each other doesn't always have to be racial in origin. The U.S once put German Americans into prison camps for both World Wars, but there was no law stripping them of their racial identity.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Them: "Italins aren't white, silly"
You in another convo: "The italians enslaved whites across Europe"
Them: "That's just whites enslaving other whites"

It always depends on the circumstance. If it's beneficial to whites, then they deconstruct whiteness and if it hurts whites, then they don't deconstruct it.

As Jared has said many times, they know what white is when they do affirmative action, but they don't know what white is when you want whites to live with whites only.

[–]gloomy_bear[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think the anti-Catholic/Theophobia towards Catholics was also due to the anti-immigrant stance of Italian-Americans and Irish-Americans during that time period.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, immigration ruins a lot of things without any benefits to anyone except a few rich people, and the immigrants happened to be Catholic. Still, it was whipped up and used by jews.