Are you part of a Nationalist group IRL?

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[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

No. Federal prison isn't my thing.

[–]bug-in-recovery 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

never do anything in real life, goy!

just stay on the internet forever!

doing things is scary!

pretty pathetic tbh

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Agreed, I'm open to suggestions.

[–]bug-in-recovery 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Why do you think you would end up in federal prison?

Although the feds are of course scum bags, you can just not do illegal stuff and avoid that risk.

In fact, any group that gets even close to suggesting untoward activities like that is something to stay away from.

Like I said in this thread I'm with NJP/TRS and couldn't be happier, so I'd suggest starting there 😎

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

you can just not do illegal stuff and avoid that risk.

You could easily get caught with conspiracy to riot and/or aiding and abetting the conspiracy if NJP members have to defend themselves against antifa or other hostile groups. Even if you aren't guilty, can you afford to be in and out of court for the next 3 years?

Also, defending yourself against blacks would be illegal in almost any scenario, or even against liberal whites. Kyle Rittenhouse's lawyer suggested he would have been convicted if they had evidence Rittenhouse was a racist, even though racism had nothing to do with the incident.

There's a million scenarios where you could end up in legal trouble, especially if you ever end up in a fight. I'm not suggesting not to join or be active NJP, just saying risk is still there.

[–]Mr9to5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I’ve tried not to discourage young guys from joining NJP because I feel like they’ve tried to be responsible and I may even give it a shot - but I have similar feelings. I’m only a couple people separated out from someone who went down under RICO. He was living a totally benign lifestyle and had become a born again Christian - but they grabbed him on old stuff to get him to testify. The old guard gets it, I wish I could get some of these young guys to watch more stuff by prison vloggers and similar sources to get a sense for how the American legal system treats people it doesn’t like - not to discourage them but to prepare them, you need to be ready for a dirty fight. You’ve got to try to look as bland as a church mouse when you’re outside of something like a rally - but also assume they’ll treat you like you have a swastika tattooed on your face. It’s not a game.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, on the evening of the deadly incident, the defendent marched as an active member of the NJP, a violent white supremacist group, lead by Alan Balogh, a former member of the neo-nazi national alliance and neo-nazi Tony Hovater. I urge you to bring this man to justice for [insert federal pre-crime laws].

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh they get it, they just have courage and conviction.

[–]bug-in-recovery 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well sure, there is always a nonzero risk, but the alternative is to do nothing.

I was tired of doing nothing.

Standing up for your beliefs is never going to be 100% safe.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. Doing nothing isnt safe either.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Are there any others from reddit who you know of in PF/NJP?

[–]bug-in-recovery 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

From reddit? No.

I only know one guy from reddit though.

Our local group has about 60 people in it that are great friends who help each other out.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

From reddit? No.

Disappointing, we had 20k monthly uniques and they're nowhere to be seen irl. I've been recognised in telegram chats from my username, but nobody irl I've talked to was on our subreddits.

Our local group has about 60 people in it that are great friends who help each other out.

Nice, how wide of an area is your local group?

[–]bug-in-recovery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ha nice, I wonder if we share any TG groups.

We're in Ohio.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I was in your based books channel before😎👍 other than that nah, I don't join public tg chats cuz they're filled with feds.

Ah nice, Ohio is like top 5 for organised nationalists right? I think Ohio, Texas, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and one or two others are the big states for NJP and PF.

How intertwined is NJP/PF btw, if 1 is allies and 10 is full integration like PF are a street activist branch of NJP then where would you say they are? It looks like 1 to me, but I would hope for a full merger where the PF can become something akin to what the SA was for NSDAP, but not paramilitary ofc due to obvious fed problems.

[–]bug-in-recovery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah nice, fair enough re: the other channels. Lots morons and weirdos on TG.

Regarding NJP/PF, rather than give a number, I'll just say we are friendly with each other, but don't coordinate on anything.

I like PF, but (personally) I find their activism pretty vague ("reclaim america" but they don't mention jews or explicit White advocacy), plus I have a feeling that the general public finds their more military stylized aesthetic offputting/scary.

That said, they do a lot right. I really like that the emphasize physical fitness, and I have friends in PF that are all great guys.