Are you part of a Nationalist group IRL?

submitted by VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist from self.debatealtright

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[–]DragonerneJesus is white 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

This is stupid. Nationalists will work together, because nation is above all else. Infighting is jewish

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is stupid. Nationalists will work together, because nation is above all else. Infighting is jewish

So you think Claus von Stauffenberg was a Jew? Or the other July 20th conspirators?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_July_plot

I stand by point. I don't expect perfect harmony. There will always be some kind of purity test that both the far-right and far-left want to attain.

Edit: However, I think there's a better solution. Installing a monarch would remedy this issue. It's why on the other side of the globe, Imperial Japan was able to hold out much longer since the King WAS seen as the nation.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They weren't nationalists, they were reactionaries pursuing their class interest

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I would describe them as opportunists rather than reactionaries. I don't think their actions were in the interests of the German aristocracy either.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Whose interest was it for? I was under the impression it was a bunch of military guys and aristocrats collaborating, which is intuitive that they'd want to build a state for their interests.

I don't know specific details of this stuff though, I don't find it interesting at all, so maybe I'm wrong. Either way these people trying to sabotage the war effort, overthrow Hitler etc can't be considered to be nationalists imo.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The perpetrators were military men and aristocrats, but I don't think they were specifically aiming at the restoration of an aristocratic or monarchic regime. My understanding is that it was just a power grab and an extremely naive attempt at negotiated surrender. I would call them foolish opportunists, if anything.