The Danish Elections just started

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[–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I should add that I've previously shared huge white pills about Denmark, and while that is true, the current government has made it much easier to come to Denmark and the levels of new immigrants have completely exploded even during lockdowns, in fact this quater we had MORE new immigrants than ever since 2009 when they started recording quaterly data. I expect the new government to continue this explotion.
During the opening debate, the national TV had all kinds of subjects to discuss between the parties and they obviously put immigration as the last one after 2 hours so that fewer people would listen to that subject.

Edit: I don't mean to be doomerposting, I've been a bit sad lately, but I am still hopeful and whitepilled.

[–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Those of us who believed that Mette wasn't really anti-immigration or pro-'remigration' were right, then?

The government that is now over appears to be comprised of:

Social Democrats, Social Liberals, Green Left and the Red-Green alliance. These last three often seem to be in an alliance with the SocDems.

That put Venstre, DPP, Conservatives, NB, Liberal Alliance, Independent Greens, The Alternative, Christian Democrats, Moderates and DD outside of the government.

Looking at the historical cabinets.

Most of the 1990s chiefly saw a combination of the SocDems and the Social Liberals in government.

Most of the 2000s chiefly saw a combination of Venstre and the Conservatives in government.

The Thorning-Schmidt cabinets essentially repeat the 1990s (Social Democrats + Social Liberals), except that we see the addition of the Green Left, until the Green Left leaves.

The government before Mette's essentially repeats the 2000s (Venstre + Conservative), except that we see the addition of the Liberal Alliance, plus support from the DPP.

It seems to me that there are essentially two major camps:

A Left to liberal camp: Dominated by SocDem, almost always allies with the Social Liberals. More recently, the Green Left and the Red-Green Alliance have become more and more a part of this camp.

A liberal to conservative camp: Dominated by Venstre, almost always allies with the Conservatives. More recently, the Liberal Alliance have become more and more a part of this camp.

Turning away from the historical cabinets and into the polling, we see that the SocDems would probably remain the kingmakers, except that it sounds to me as though the Social Liberals will not rejoin anything including the SocDems, at least for the time being.

I thus find that there is little historical precedent for such a government composed of SocDem + Venstre or SocDem + Conservative, or perhaps even Venstre + Social Liberals.

The last one of those three makes me think twice. Is it possible that the Social Liberals could flip to siding with a renewed Venstre + Conservative coalition government? That would create a three party combination slightly larger than the SocDems alone, with a Venstre Prime Minister, but I do not know who else can be added to that.

A cursory look at DD reveals it has some anti-immigration liberals from Venstre plus some people who have for some reason left the DPP. Why did some switch from the DPP? And what do you think of Messerschmidt? He sounds controversial, but for all the right reasons to me.

Nonetheless, any combination including DD (Venstre + Conservative + DD or SocDem + DD) sounds impossible.

Is SocDem + Green Left + Red-Green Alliance possible given that it seems to me that Venstre + Conservative + Liberal Alliance cannot reliably gather up enough other parties to be larger than the 40-45% that these three put together are polling.

Venstre+Conservative+Liberal Alliance would almost certainly need to add something like DD+NR or DD+Moderates or Moderates+NR+DPP to their coalition in order to form a bigger bloc than the Left.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Immigration was fine for the first 1-2 years of government, but it has absolutely exploded for the past year.

Yes but SocDems and Social Liberals (I'm assuming thats radikale venstre) wont form a government together, at least that's what they've said so far. RV was also the party to FORCE socdems to start the elections now.

SocDem + Venstre is probably unlike, but SocDem + Moderates (former leader of Venstre) seems likely at least according to the recent debate.

However what is kind of weird is that SocDems said they were angry at RV because they forced them to not have the immigration policy that they wanted to have, and Moderates like RV are both very pro immigration, Moderates even told Venstre or Liberal Alliance that it would be impossible for them to have a "reasonable immigration policy" with DD, DF or NB, elitist laughingly.
So it seems like SocDems are replacing RV with Moderates but I don't even know.

DD + NB + DF are the parties the alt right would like, and I could see them possibly allying with Conservatives + LA but I don't even know if that's 40% of the votes.

Edit: I forgot to answer your Messerschmidt question. He is abit like Richard Spencer. Elitist + Racist, although from a Christian perspective. I like him.