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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Looks like FDI, League, and M5s should have made the coalition and got rid of the subhuman sounding FI to me.

Combining left and right populism would send a chill down every jew on the planet's spine. When they see the teaming up with the cuck lolberts to create a rightoid coalition it's clear they will be controllable in 99% of circumstances. We'll see what happens though.

[–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

M5S is clearly worse than FI. FI is still an improvement over any Anglosphere Tory party, probably also better than UKIP, Reform or whatever the Farage followers are currently in. Sure, Guardianistas and other trash in the Anglophone mass media hate both M5S and Berlusconi, but they see M5S merely as 'populist' and Berlusconi as 'fascist', strongly suggesting that Berlusconi is the lesser of evils.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's pretty clear wokeoid nonsense is downstream of power and not the other way around. Fixing the economic system so power is no longer in the hands of jews solves wokeoid nonsense, but being anti-woke does absolutely nothing to affect their power. It just acts as catharsis for ordinary people who are sick of gay pride parades and shit, but the same jews pushing libertinism (degeneracy) still have all the power and will continue pushing it just more slowly for the few years the non-woke facade is up for.

Jeremy Corbyn's labour would have done more damage to jewish power in England, despite being gay and retarded, than any of the anti-woke right wing parties. Assuming M5s is more or less the same as that then they're obviously the better option over any kind of typical right party in Europe IE Korwin Mikke, Orban etc types. Wouldn't they also be outnumbered anyway or would they have veto power in terms of blocking them from stopping immigration, trannies in schools or whatever other stupid gay shit capitalists like?

[–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We have to consider just how bad of a coalition partner M5S is.

After the 2018 election, M5S explicitly ruled out forming a government with any of the 'Centre-Right coalition' parties. Di Maio (M5S leader) wanted to form a government with the PD, but the PD wouldn't accept joining a coalition with any of the 'Centre-Right coalition' parties either. Eventually, the government was formed, composed solely of Lega and a reluctant M5S who clearly would have preferred a government with PD and some smaller parties.

So, here's my first key point: M5S clearly doesn't even like Lega, FdI, or FI in the first place, which makes the idea of replacing FI with them in 'Centre-Right coalition' government untenable. They couldn't work with those parties the first time around, and there's no point in giving them a second chance to do what I'm about to mention, viz. literally collapse the government and give it back to the Left.

In late 2019, M5S left the government and promptly formed a new government with PD and two other garbage Left-liberal parties. The mess that this created meant that the Left ended up ruling for most of the term that Lega should have been in government for.

So here's my second key point: M5S is completely untrustworthy even if they were to accept a place in the 'Centre-Right coalition', since they gravitated back to their natural position as allies of the PD not long after the first time around.

In early 2021, this Left-wing second Conte government also collapsed because Renzi's small party (IV) left. Draghi then formed his government, which Lega and FI joined but within which they were heavily outnumbered by the Left parties (M5S, PD and four smaller ones).

M5S' refusal to work with the 'Centre-Right coalition' is the chief problem here. They had their chance to work with Lega and blew it, opting instead to work with our enemies like the PD and Renzi's splinter group of the PD. It's better not to include them so as not to repeat the sheer failures of the past four years.

The M5S isn't a serious party, which is why most of their gains have gone back to the PD. Those idiots even got the mayorship of Rome and a few other major cities only to screw up so bad that the PD took them back. Just look at them right now. They're literally in an alliance with a group called the Gay Party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Party

For the 2022 Italian general election, the party failed to collect the 80,000 signatures necessary to be able to register, and on 22 August they announced an agreement with the Five Star Movement to carry two candidates (Fabrizio Marrazzo and Marina Zela) on the party's lists.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Makes much more sense with context, they're not even pretending to care about economics, they're just radlibs.