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[–]RichtoffLud 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jews held at least 80% of high government positions in the USSR, even though they were 1.5% of the population. Holodomor may be connection to the Jews' failed attempt to create autonomous regions such as Jewish Autonomy in Crimea and Jewish Autonomous Oblast, that needed resources for its construction, what made them to get part of some lands and create committees like Komzet and OZET, such as ICOR (Organization for Jewish Colonization in Russia), that was created by a jew, Julius Rosenwald. These lands were under Jewish control before and after the Holodomor, in the Ukraine, Stavropol and Crimea region, they collected countless resources, and still failed to build their autonomous region, where did these resources go?

Another outstanding figure was the Jewish soviet author Lev Kopelev, he speaks of the historical necessity of hunger, as a means of achieving revolution. Kopelev describes how every night trucks covered with tarpaulins gathered up the corpses of the starving nation. In 1933 he himself took part in the forced grain collections -- confiscating from the peasants even their seed grain and leaving them to starve: "And I persuaded myself, explained to myself, I mustn't give in to debilitating pity. We were realizing historical necessity. We were performing our revolutionary duty. We were obtaining grain for the socialist fatherland. For the five-year plan." Describing his work as a party propagandist among Ukrainian farmers in the 1930's, when millions of people starved in the wake of the enforced collectivization of Soviet agriculture, Mr. Kopelev later wrote: ''Those years were for me a heroic tragedy. Instead of fate, as in the days of antiquity, historical necessity ruled, and I believed in it more unconditionally than I had believed in God as a child. So I was proud to help take bread away from the farmers, proud as a 20-year-old ignorant city slicker to teach old, wizened farmers how they should behave, what was good for them and what was bad."

[–]asterias 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some of the main architects of Holodomor were jews, not to mention that the whole communist party was full of them.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even Putin said that.

[–]fukit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know there was an article called Stalin's Jews in some kind of Jewish media meant for Jewish consumption, before Jews shut down all criticism of themselves. Haven't read it, but I've seen it mentioned a few times and have read a synopsis of it. The author apparently tries to pretend these Jews weren't motivated by being Jewish or any kind of an ethnic agenda, but the argument is weak and not particularly believable, whereas the evidence he lays out about how massively Jewish the Cheka and other segments of the Bolshevik and Communist state security apparatus was, is overwhelming, along with laying out how Ghengrik Yagoda and Lazar Kaganovitch were 2 of the worst mass murderers in human history. There have been articles on Unz and Occidental observer about the subject as well.

Kaganovitch was probably the man most responsible for the policies that directly led to millions of deaths. At best he was to the Holodomor what Himmler was to "the holocaust", and at worst he was almost completely responsible. Stalin of course eventually had Yagoda executed after he allegedly caught Yagoda colluding with other Jews to undermine him. Stalin might have been paranoid, but that doesn't mean he was wrong about all the people he accused of trying to get rid of him. I believe Kaganovitch himself later claimed he was involved in poisoning Stalin and bringing about his death, so apparently Stalin still wasn't paranoid enough.

One thing to ask the person your debating, is why you don't ever hear Jews speak about Jewish victims of the Holodomor? It's aguably the greatest genocide in history, and yet Jews are completely silent about any Jewish victims. This from a group that talks about alleged pogroms that happened over a thousand years ago like they happened yesterday.

[–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know about Holodomor specifically (beside Genrikh Jagoda) but there is a lot of stuff on jews in Soviet Union.

Number of Leading NKVD Staff Members. In some years there was more jews than Russians until Stalin purged them

https://codoh.com/library/document/1722/?lang=en

This Atlantic article, quoting Timothy Snyder, stating that a third of NKVD officers were jews

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/01/grappling-with-holodomor/282816/