Major developments in the Russia-Ukraine war

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Putin has also announced that Russia will consider using weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons, in order to defend its territory.

The last nukes were used in 1945, when only one country had them, and M.A.D didn't exist yet.

They're not going to do anything with them.

Edit: Just yesterday, they threatened to do the same thing at the Queen's funeral in London. It's all posturing.

[–]NeoRail[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think they will use nukes either, but I wouldn't completely rule it out - tactical nuclear weapons could possibly be deployed against Ukrainian units, and in an extreme scenario they may even target Western Ukraine or Kiev. I don't think that's likely though. Still, it should be noted that there is no threat of mutually assured destruction in Ukraine at all - even the most insane NATO hawks seem to be limiting their rhetoric to "ensuring consequences" if Putin uses nukes, rather than threatening nuclear retaliation. This manoeuvre could be an attempt by Putin to paralyse Ukrainian decision making - it might be interesting to see how that goes.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

. Still, it should be noted that there is no threat of mutually assured destruction in Ukraine at all - even the most insane NATO hawks seem to be limiting their rhetoric to "ensuring consequences" if Putin uses nukes, rather than threatening nuclear retaliation.

Chernobyl didn't happen in the West, yet every country was still demanding to know what happen (which the USSR did eventually fold on it).

If they use Nukes in Ukraine, which could trigger radiation clouds or even blow up another Nuclear plant, of course other nuclear powers are going to do something.

It's all fake posturing. Russia has 25 million soldiers they could even call up if they wanted, going straight for WMD's is admitting that they have nothing left.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Putin doesn't want to hand all the power to the military, which is what would likely happen in the case of a full mobilitization. Look at the dynamics of the communist revolution.