England is excessively cucked and really deserves its destruction

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[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Who is in charge of interpreting and applying God's law? Is it the Catholic Church? The Orthodox Church? Some Protestant denomination? Perhaps another group or authority?

You see my point.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You don't see my point.

Christians are meant to obey authority who have been chosen by God - but it is under the condition that they are just. If they are not just, then they have NO authority from God and are NOT to be obeyed.

This is the important aspect of romans that people forget to mention.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"Iustus Est Necare Rex Impius" But I don't think it's up to us to judge those who held traditional authority. That's our own hubris, and if we do so, what's to the difference between us and those reject entirely the traditions? We must accept the authority even when we deem the individual unworthy.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We must accept the authority even when we deem the individual unworthy.

"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil."
"For he is God’s minister to you for good."

If you do good but are punished he has NO authority and there is no authority to "accept"

How can you accept something which does not exist? They derive their authority from God ONLY, and if they don't do good, then they are not of God and hence hold zero authority.

Authority under the law.

Read Acts 16 where Paul resist the "authorities"

Gods authorities have 4 "restrictions" that they must follow in order to be required to be obeyed by christians.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are repeatedly missing the point.

If you do good but are punished he has NO authority and there is no authority to "accept"

Who determines if your actions are good or evil? People disagree on this every day. In a traditional context, the legitimate judge is the divinely appointed sovereign, not the individual who presumes to cast judgement onto the sovereign as being in conformity or not in conformity with "God's law". When every man thinks that he has the right to casually judge and reject authority for himself, authority is completely dissolved. This is why loyalty to the sovereign has always been the moral core of traditional society. Obviously, we no longer live in traditional societies, but if we are discussing principles then we should discuss them properly.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What gave Paul the right to judge and resist the so-called "authorities"?

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do you suppose Paul would have reacted if someone questioned him and his authority, and rejected his claim to represent God and distinguish good from evil?