The snowball is starting to take shape in America.

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I'm not as whitepilled as you but it's a good sign that WN movements have filtered out all the grifters and trashy people and have been left with a core of dedicated and sincere people who are devoted to the cause.

Hopefully, they can attract more whites of good character and means and eventually form a significant political movement.

Remember goys, what's important is not having a huge mass of men, its having a critical mass of good men.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I like NJP. I also like what Mark Collet is doing with Patriotic alternative in the UK.

its having a critical mass of good men.

Totally agree. The Patriotic alternative events are also pretty normie friendly so lots of sympathetic women are joining and the events are becoming a place to meet a wife in the movement. I think that's something the NJP and PF should look at. We could be in this cold race war struggle for 50 years until we get a proper ethnostate so we might as well meet like minded people and form families and communities in the meantime.

[–]oligarchracy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Remember goys, what's important is not having a huge mass of men, its having a critical mass of good men.

This is why I think the alt right is ultimately useless. This is horrible advice. You need the masses on your side, you HAVE the masses on your side because there's several hundred million whites on this planet and in almost every instance, they still make up the majority of the countries they reside in. It is in their own self interests not to allow themselves to be demonized, discriminated against, ethnically cleansed, physically attacked, and slandered. This is why Jewish power is on such inherently shaky grounds. It continually requires whites actively discriminate against themselves, or at least passively allow it to happen, for it to continue.

If you have numbers on your side why would you intentionally piss that away in purity spirals and chest thumping historically outdated bullshit about strong men seizing power. This idiotic Richard Spencer mentality is everything wrong with the alt right, and conservatives in general. You guys spend way more time picking fights with other whites over stupid ideological bullshit than doing anything constructive, and no marching around in fucking uniforms chanting slogans while using Nazi rhetoric and imagery while Jewish media mock you and Jewish dominated power prosecutes you is not even remotely constructive.

[–]NeoRail 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The post you are responding to does not make any of the arguments that you evidently wish to criticise.

[–]oligarchracy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I quoted the point I was specifically responding to, but thanks. Since you "evidently" didn't understand that or the relevance of the quote, I will address it once again in a slightly different manner. I'm opposed to the idea of marking yourself as a target for Jewish lawfare, slandering and deplatforming because thats what the Nazis did 100 years ago and it worked for them(up until they destroyed getmany in a disasterous world war). I think its exactly what they want, which is why they continually bait people with shit like trannie story hour. I think a better method would be to explain to whites what they are facing and to appeal to their sense of morality and fairness, as well as their own self interest to oppose it, without further dividing whites into ideological friends and enemies.

[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You wrote two paragraphs in response to a single line, which, in all honesty, is not really objectionable at all. Everybody knows that it is better to be in good company than not. Your current reply also seems somewhat divorced from reality. I don't think anyone on earth would disagree with the assertion that rational explanation and appeals to morality have value. That's basically a platitude, isn't it?

[–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You wrote two paragraphs in response to a single line

So? I just made it three paragraphs now. Sue me.

There's a backstory here to be fair. It's about these little dissident marching clubs winding up doing more harm than good, both for the people involved and for whites in general. That's fine if people want to do SOMETHING and that's what they come up with, but so far it hasn't ended well for those involved. That's just the reality.

[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The effectiveness of marches very much depends on where they occur. To my knowledge, NJP have a had a lot of success with marches, because they do them in areas that are sympathetic to them instead of travelling halfway across the country in order to march in an Antifa controlled area.

[–]Schlomo_GaschambergRabbi Schlomo Auschwitzstein Gaschamberg 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

One thing that is easy to notice with Left-liberal extremists is that they don't venture far. I first noticed that back in the George Floyd riots: even though these scum had more of a problem with the Republicans (who they tend to think are 'fascists') than the Democrats (who they tend to think are 'conservatives' or the 'semi-fascists' Biden accuses Trumpians of being), they only really caused havoc in their own deep blue cities, and usually in the city centres of said cities.

There was a time when some of these pricks actually went to start trouble in some town only for the locals to beat them up; the morons returned to their deep blue safe spaces in whichever city whence they came.

The same thing happened after the SCOTUS decision on Roe: the scum rioted most of all in deep blue cities such Los Angeles, Portland and Salem. The most that some managed was travel to Richmond, Virginia, where the Supreme Court is: but plenty of pro-life protesters also traveled there to surround that place. Considering that Richmond is also very deep blue (the only Republican mayoral candidate got 0.5% of the vote last mayoral election), much worse could have happened there.

That leads me to think that so long as deep blue cities are avoided, that only leaves the State's dregs as posing a problem to groups like the NJP; but not the dregs of the Far-Left, who are only going to Tweet about it from afar. As long as no one gets the dumb as rocks idea of marching somewhere like downtown LA (i.e. deep blue and overwhelmingly nonwhite), I think they'll be fine.

Charlottesville, however, voted 85.5% Democrat in the last Presidential election, and the Republicans don't even stand mayoral candidates in that city (there are only Democrats and independents), so whoever thought that it was a good idea to go there was an absolute moron. Areas with a low level of Democrat support are clearly much safer: the few Antifa who might be around won't bother showing up if they know they'll be heavily outnumbered.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That town was only chosen as it was Jason Kessler and Vanguard's homes. I'm sure there were many more choices for towns with Confederate statues anyway.