"x lasted longer than the Confederacy"

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[–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'm not pushing any opinion on anybody or just blankly stating left-wing takes. I make such posts, because whenever I trawl around and see such a rebuttal to our beliefs, I might not immediately know the answer and responses from us may be hard to find elsewhere. Therefore I go on here to ask you simply if you'd have such an answer. I think this may help us all because it reinforces what we believe in. We have had many threads before that are of a similar format.

[–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

because whenever I trawl around and see such a rebuttal to our beliefs

this may help us all because it reinforces what we believe in

There you go again, being disingenuous. You are totally salos lol. You cant hide yourself and im not even sure you are really trying.

This isn't about you though, its about some puzzling behavior by the mods of this sub.

[–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am going to admit that I made a gaffe regarding "we". You may have belieefs that are diverse, and I'm not tying my current ideas down to yours. I'm just here to learn for myself and for anyone else who wants to partake in it. I don't mean any harm for anyone and while it won't be the absolute win for the AR, I think having more intellectuals on our side as I seek to refute some of these leftist ideas and doing this in general would help some of the way. These "what do you think of x" posts are like when you first were redpilled and you began to think otherwise about mainstream beliefs.

Salos sounded quite committed to certain left-wing takes, whereas I have taken a more "exploratory" approach as I bring up others' talking points for anyone to analyze. So call me whatever, but I just want a rational way through this and I do not mean to interrupt anyone's experience on here.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I am sorry, but I don't believe that at all. Assuming that you are actually telling the truth, you must either be very lazy, since you apparently can't be bothered to refute basic leftist talking points yourself, or you must be the most self-critical man on the planet. The much more rational explanation is that you are some kind of shill. I have never seen you make any positive claim or statement - whenever you post, it's always about what "some people argue". You never reveal what your own views are actually like. To me, it looks like you present your views as those of "some people" because you don't want to stand behind your own arguments. I don't know what benefit there could possible be in doing something like that, but it does not really concern me either way.

[–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ok, I concede on this. Though sometimes it may be difficult to find rebuttals since most of the normieweb will only provide 'safe' answers, and certain topics (LGBT science, some of these new leftist talking points like above etc.) are not often refuted on here, or even in the 4chan backlog. I may see some new positions or discoveries that I myself have not made before. I would not mind a special place for those who are asking questions about politics but one thing is that I will not pretend I am set on one ideology.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

On the contrary, it looks to me like you are already set on an ideology, but are unwilling to admit it. With that said, the reason why there are no detailed refutation of leftist ideology here is because doing something like that would be very high effort and very low reward since the community has been totally deplatformed. Refutation is also frankly not worth the time, since most types of leftist ideology today are either self-contradictory or based on obviously flawed premises.

[–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm going to say that some of these refutations could work in a smaller scale, slipped through the censor cracks, or whenever any leftists are content with debating the alt-right. Also the last sentence of yours works for the 'basic' memes, admittedly like the one that comprises this thread.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, it's true for everything. Even the most elaborate theories collapse immediately if they rest on false premises, and these are a universal feature of leftist ideology.