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Dugin's daughter reportedly murdered by a car bomb

submitted 1 year ago by NeoRail from self.debatealtright

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[–]NeoRail[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (3 children)

Initially I also suspected that Putin may have used the war to try and get rid of Dugin, but I don't think that's it. Dugin lacks the influence to threaten Putin, and besides this event will only generate public sympathy for him. In all likelihood, I think the Ukrainians must have done this. I think they should be aware that Dugin has no power in Russia, but this is probably just their way of lashing out in an act of ethnic vengeance without any considerations of strategy coming into play - there has been plenty of that in the past months. Also, since in the West Dugin is presented as some shadowy mastermind in control of Russia, it is possible that they may have aimed at some PR victory in order to demonstrate that they can strike back and win the war despite the lack of any military success.

I don't think Dugin knew about this or switched cars for any specific reasons. After all, it is his daughter who died, and he seems to be in shock. It was probably just a coincidence. I also don't think this was an internal issue, because it seems like a very major escalation for an internal conflict. There are much more civilised ways to resolve political disagreements.

As a side note, there are a lot of really awful people in these Twitter threads. Under the tweet you sent me, some people are discussing the potential murder of Zhirinovsky's children, despite them having nothing to do with his politics. I have also already seen lots of people gloating about Darya's murder as well, justifying it in all sorts of abhorrent ways. I am once again genuinely stunned. Perhaps the joke is on me for falling for a progressive talking point and assuming that we had left stuff like this behind us in the Middle Ages. Then again, whatever can be said about them, actual blood feuds at least had a traditional character, so this type of base bloodthirst is actually much worse.

(as far as I know, both were supportive of Putin, they only criticized him for not being more of a rignat).

What's a rignat? Rigger nationalism, as in anti-democracy?

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but this is probably just their way of lashing out in an act of ethnic vengeance without any considerations of strategy coming into play

Yeah I think this might be it, good point.

I don't think Dugin knew about this or switched cars for any specific reasons. After all, it is his daughter who died, and he seems to be in shock.

I wasn't implying he knew about it or something insidious, just the reason why he switched cars (as in, "you go home Darya, I'll stay a bit more" or something like that).

I have also already seen lots of people gloating about Darya's murder as well, justifying it in all sorts of abhorrent ways.

It must be that Ukrainians genuinely believe that Dugin is Putin's ideologue and the architect of war. If you believe that, I see why you would rejoice over this, because he'd be responsible for deaths of thousands, and Dugin's fate is worse than his own death quite frankly. Of course, I don't believe this, so it looks quite shocking to me as well.

I mean, there are genuinely bloodthirsty people, but most of them are ordinary people turned extremist because of all the propaganda they're fed.

What's a rignat?

Just me trying to be funny and failing lol, I meant russian wignat (similar to jignat).

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