What do you think of this push by Torba et. al. for Christian Nationalism? Is it a psyop? Is it good or bad for White Nationalism?

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[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Torba is a retard and a perfect example of some of the issues with the Christian Right. I am not explicitly anti Christian and recognize the good allies among them but the worst and dumbest aspects of the Right, both mainstream and far right, are strongly correlated with the Christian Right.

America doesn't have much of a nationalist culture and is more religious than all other Western countries. Originally the rise of the "Alt Right" in America showed little emphasis on Christianity. This to me is preferable as both Christian and non Christian can participate. It seems inevitable though that as more of the American right become radicalized it means more emphasis on Christianity but this also correlates with dumbing it down and attracting many negative characteristics we associate with mainstream conservatism(ie"boomer conservatism").

Beyond that I am not a fan because I don't believe Christianity or any dogmatic religion can realistically form the foundation of any Western country again. If you build your movement off that you have set it up on weak foundations. I believe the Rights failure to combat the Left is the fact that it is always living in the past and trying to recreate the past rather presenting a superior forward looking vision of the future.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Originally the rise of the "Alt Right" in America showed little emphasis on Christianity.

And how'd that work out for us? Fed boy Richard Spencer was our leader during that period and that version of the alt right totally collapsed.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Okay? and that had nothing to do with it not being Christian. There was far more energy and activity among the far right in those days. It was deplatforming that killed it.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Would have collapsed anyway. Big tech had chosen a side, and deplatformed anyone from social media (i.e Amren, Red Ice, InfoWars even Donald Trump himself).

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The old WN 2.0 stuff had way more power than muh alt-right ever did and they weren't exactly Christian outside of the KKK. Seems like all of that crumbled with 9/11 and the drastically strengthened surveillance state, along with the deaths of some high profile people and infighting.