Who do you think were the best and worst US Presidents?

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

1788 - 1932

Best: Jefferson, Jackson, Teddy

Worst: Wilson

Mixed Bag/It's complicated: Lincoln.

1932 - present

Best: Kennedy.

Worst: FDR, GWB, Reagan, Clinton, Obama.

Grant was probably one of the first full 'shabbos' Presidents. Dude was down right dumb and people around him manipulated the shit out of him. He certainly did his job for the masons pulling the strings. He didn't allow a second civil war and he didn't repatriate blacks to Africa like Lincoln had planned. He even gave blacks the vote with the 15th amendment. Grant helped former slaves and fought the klan who were simply attempting to deal with the daily rapes and assaults perpetrated by freed blacks. Many of whom were simply too dumb to feed themselves. In fact it's estimated that something like 900k freed slaves died of starvation when the plantation system collapsed and they couldn't transition to self sufficiency. Grant basically continued the war on the South using blacks as a proxy. A trend that continues today.

Grant being Grant shamed politicians that talked about genociding indians, “a system which looks to the extinction of a race is too horrible for a nation to adopt without entailing upon itself the wrath of all Christendom" and then essentially did just that by trapping them in reservations.

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Grant reminds me of Eisenhower warning about the military-industrial complex while actively perpetuating it.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This. Some people in our circles think Eisenhower was a hero because he warned us but he was in a position to slow or stop it from growing if he really cared.

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Yeah, he committed a sin of omission. Decisive inaction.

That reminds me of an anecdote I read earlier today in Hermann Giesler's memoir, in which Hitler states that if the Italians really cared about fighting in the war, they'd have prioritized Malta. In their reluctance to fight, they failed to seize upon its vulnerabilities in 1940.