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[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So this is totally anecdotal but anyway. My mother is a traditional Catholic, extremely religious woman, but she's also inclined to worship America and to call herself liberal. In the wake of the abortion ruling thing we had a series of seminars about bioethics, so I asked her to just listen some professional explaining their view on the matter. She was totally disgusted by the side that called himself liberal, even if it's now probably 10 years that I am telling to her how much liberalism is a cancer. Turns out that she simply wasn't going to believe me because she knows I'm fascist, and as such I was going to cherry pick cases to make America and liberalism look bad.

But yeah, it's hard to explain people, expecially family, how bad liberalism is, because they won't engage with the theory and will keep thinking that liberalism is some form of blank state instead of a specific, highly predictable, ideological program which aims for the destruction of every race, every religion and every form of morality.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thanks for sharing. I'm seeing something very similar. My mom has such an antiquated picture of liberalism. She seems to think in very black and white over simplified definitions when it comes to politics. Being perceived as 'moral' and 'compassionate' are her highest values. Republicans are immoral because they are racist, they horde money away from the needy, and they speak with blunt harsh boisterous rhetoric. My mom thinks the right are just greedy white business men and the left are all the normal middle class people who care for one anther. For her the left is the only moral political party. The left crusades for a just society; just like Jesus. The left are heroes standing up for the weakest in society. Republicans just want to crush the weak and any rhetoric that conflicts with that is just lies and dirty tricks. My mom frames everything politically as which side wants to help the poor starving negro boy who just wants to be a doctor and who wants to hurt him.

I think if I am forced to engage politically with her again I'm going to ask her to define liberalism and come at things from that direction.

specific, highly predictable, ideological program which aims for the destruction of every race, every religion and every form of morality.

I'm confident she will never gain that level of understanding. She's just to fixed in her ways. Even when I start 'winning' in political discussions with her and she starts to agree with me she throws up her hands and says she's stuck in her ways and doesn't want to change. Lol. It's really insane.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Republicans just want to crush the weak and any rhetoric that conflicts with that is just lies and dirty tricks.

The problem with these discussions is they often turn into democrat vs republican debates, and they're not wrong that republicans are awful, they just think so for the wrong reasons.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I normal concede that the republicans are just as bad but it doesn't really make them analyze leftist malice.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Of course, their brains don't work that way. They're not interested in new ideas.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the heart of the boomer mindset. You either perfectly confirm what I think and how I view the world or fuck off. Most boomers are totally a lost cause and I won't even engage them on politics.