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[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

The emperor of Japan isn't a political leader, and as a symbol he was utterly humiliated and destroyed by the Americans, who forced him to declare that he was of human ancestry and not a god of the bloodline of Amaterasu, thus officially ending the Shinto.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The emperor of Japan isn't a political leader,

Even though he gave the final orders for Japan to surrender? Which lead to the Japanese military nearly overthrowing him to save face?

and as a symbol he was utterly humiliated and destroyed by the Americans, who forced him to declare that he was of human ancestry and not a god of the bloodline of Amaterasu, thus officially ending the Shinto.

Eh, not the worst punishment/humiliation. Compared to what happened in Germany & Fascist Italy, their punishment was straight up execution of all high ranking officials and brainwashing their population to accept war guilt.

Japan today still has school textbooks that portray their own participation in the war favorably, and the rest of the world doesn't really care or try to stop them. Again, they got off very easy and it's reflected in their own demographics being 99% homogenous.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

only the Germans bought the guilt thing, and only because of the jew holocaust narrative. Look at this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indro_Montanelli

the problem is the cultural influence of America, and honestly Japan isn't particularly better when it comes to culture.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Correct me if wrong, but there's still a major stigma against Benito Mussolini in the West. While not as villainized as Hitler, he was the original Fascist with a government that was meant to serve the people, while rejecting Capitalism & Socialism. If there are attempts by Italians to rehabilitate his image, I would be interested in seeing it.

I even recall that one of Mussolini's grandchildren has survived and entered politics, but she quit in 2020 just to join a dancing show. Yeah, not a good look...

https://www.huffingtonpost.it/entry/alessandra-mussolini-dico-addio-politica-e-un-ciclo-chiuso-dopo-ballando-con-le-stelle-guardo-al-futuro_it_5fe2f74ac5b66809cb2eb7ae/

the problem is the cultural influence of America, and honestly Japan isn't particularly better when it comes to culture.

It clearly is.

American influence hasn't caused them to lose control of demographics. And in terms of immigration, there is no easy entry to Japan that doesn't involve court cases or being instantly deported.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2017/6/20/lives-in-limbo-why-japan-accepts-so-few-refugees

It's possible for a nation survive the ill effects of Capitalism, but there is no going back from multiculturalism & diversity.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If there are attempts by Italians to rehabilitate his image, I would be interested in seeing it.

There's no attempt because at the present time it's quite unlikely to find a right winger which despise Mussolini. It's not like people is actually fascist, is just that they don't find fascism itself particularly bad and as a result the judgement about fascism is highly dependent on the right-left divide. There's not that much guilt about that, but there's not that much interest either.

Regarding Japan, they have different issues compared to the west, but they have tons of issues. They are a dying culture in every possible sense, they are extremely degenerated and in a severe birth crisis. Sure, they are xenophobic, but that isn't enough.

[–]Nasser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wouldn't a population reduction be good for Japan? It's a country the size of California with 88 million more people, most of it is mountainous too, it is not healthy for a population to crammed into mega cities like Tokyo. Not to mention automation will replace millions of Japan. I think Japan should just accept the population reduction for it's own good.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The government is actively trying to boost natality, It's safe to assume that they find the birth crisis concerning. Also, the birth crisis is just another symptom of the alienation of the youth from the society. Japan has the NEET phenomenon, which is not something you are going to fin elsewhere, at least at those level. So, while they are kinda based about the race, they have their own cultural problems.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Regarding Japan, they have different issues compared to the west, but they have tons of issues. They are a dying culture in every possible sense, they are extremely degenerated and in a severe birth crisis. Sure, they are xenophobic, but that isn't enough.

Japan has been around for thousands of years. It would be unprecendent to see a country just magically fall off the Earth that wasn't caused by some other disaster like war. And the birth crisis is not exclusive to them.

In Canada for example, we have areas that are lower than Japan. 0.95 for Victoria B.C vs 1.36 Japan.

https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/jack-knox-at-095-greater-victoria-has-the-lowest-birth-rate-in-canada-4781366

Also, the birth crisis is just another symptom of the alienation of the youth from the society. Japan has the NEET phenomenon, which is not something you are going to fin elsewhere, at least at those level. So, while they are kinda based about the race, they have their own cultural problems.

This is where natural selection comes in. NEETS & Boomers wont be around forever since one is too old to reproduce, and the other doesn't care.

But what do you think happens to the Japanese who still have families? They're obviously going to inherit the nation.

Edit: And it turns out it's another exaggeration. Mexico & Turkey have 6x as many shut-ins, yet do you think those countries are going to be extinct anytime soon?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEET#NEET_rates_in_OECD_countries

In fact, Japan comes last in that list. There are several European countries that rank higher in NEETS.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

If you are aware of the Humanity Declaration, then you must also be aware that it was a deliberately ambiguous document and that there are different interpretations of it.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Nevertheless, the aftermath of it was Japan becoming an atheist, hypercapitalist consumerist nation. Enslaved completely by the interests of America.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That was the aftermath of losing the war, not of the Humanity Declaration.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The Humanity Declaration was just one part of a series of steps taken by the occupation authorities to turn the Japanese into a docile consumer slave race. Wildly successful program.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the grand scheme of things, the Humanity Declaration was really a very small part of the American social engineering program in Japan. They wrote a new constitution for Japan, more or less destroyed everything related to the aristocracy, and promoted vulgarity and consumerism in the culture and media.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

From a Cold War perspective, Japan was always bound to be a U.S ally. Since the other alternative was siding with the Soviets or becoming third world.

In the grand scheme of things, they made a wise bet. They didn't suffer any destructive famines like China/North Korea, nor where they sanctioned to death like South Africa or Rhodesia was for believing in race & wishing to remain separated.

Japan is in a much better position to free themselves from consumerism because there are no multi-racial riots like George Floyd to keep the country distracted or divided.

[–]Nasser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

South Africa and Rhodesia were homogeneous???????

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My bad, I clearly meant to say they wanted to defend their racial origins and remain segregated from other groups.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you are aware of the Humanity Declaration, then you must also be aware that it was a deliberately ambiguous document and that there are different interpretations of it.

I said officially https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Shinto

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To my knowledge, the end of State Shinto was an unrelated American demand. I do not believe that there is any connection between the Humanity Declaration and the end of State Shinto.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I assume many Germans would lie during such polls. It would not be beneficial to present yourself as sympathetic to Nazism or Hitler in post war Germany.