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[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There wasn't any common European Identity before Christianity.

This is correct, but it is a different claim from saying that European identity is based on Christianity. For many centuries in many different areas of Europe, Christianity set Europeans against other Europeans. The fact that eventually a fairly short lived, united Christendom existed which only coincidentally covered the region of Europe should not be mistaken as the source of a genuine, intrinsically European unity.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

source of a genuine, intrinsically European unity.

Yeah but that's a different topic, I was speaking about the identiy.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I could have been clearer. I think my statement applies to identity, too. There is nothing intrinsically European about the identity of Christendom - not during the Christian-pagan conflicts, the Catholic-Protestant ones, or today when Christianity has become a chiefly non-European phenomenon.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There is the historical fact that the European Identity was built upon the premises of the Christianity.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can agree with that, that is an acceptable statement.