Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote

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[–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Unfortunately, neither you nor any of your family members have the luxury of knowing whether or not they will be free from serious health complications.

The same could be said about a ton of things were exposed to. Covid itself appears to have long lasting complications even in previously healthy people who had mild infections. Ever hear of long covid? No one knows for sure what is causing it, but one of the leading suspects is literal brain damage caused by microclots in blood vessels in the brain, but yeah, its just the flu brah, isnt that what you said when it first started? I lost track of your evolving conspiracy theories.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Ever hear of long covid?

Ah yes, so thats why all those teenage athletes were getting myocarditis and pericarditis. Checkmate, conspiracy theorists!

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

A few billion people got the vaccine. How many got myocarditis? I feel bad for you. You used to contribute here, but covid completely broke you. This is literally some kind of phobia with you. This is assuming you arent some kind of disingenuous shill trying to fuck with the goys by spreading q anon tier bullshit and dividing and discrediting the opposition. Most of us have moved on as your evolving dooms day scenarios have fizzled.

Meanwhile covid is still with us. It probably always will be. One day you might even die from it, im sure youll be denying it up to the point they put you on a ventilator. Maybe itll evolve to something less severe, or maybe get worse. Meanwhile just try to live your life and stop acting like a panicked elephant. Many of you covid conspiracists are worse than the covid hysterics.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

In your opinion, what should everyday people do with the professional opinions of doctors like Peter McCullough, Ryan Cole, Robert Malone, etc? Should they just be dismissed, and the opinions of the politician-affiliated professionals be adopted without a public debate? Are there any red flags the opposing position has raised that have any legitimacy to you?

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Debate it all you want. I dont think vax skeptics should be censored, and I have some MILD hesitation about the vax myself, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and the potential for the covid pandemic to have been even worse than it was, was real. They were throwing the kitchen sink at it because it was proving devastating to the world economy, and we still dont know the long term complications of getting covid itself, those alone could have severe implications for society and the health care system.

I think the vaccine has a higher incidence of complications than previous vaccines, but Ive also read the rebuttals to the professionals you mentioned, and those rebuttals are by far the majority of opinion from scientists and professionals. They aren't all part of some conspiracy, and their rebuttals are proving more right with each passing day.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If they genuinely want to get everyone vaxxed for their safety, why do you think there is no PUBLIC debate though, on TV, ensuring that no stone is left unturned? For example, between Fauci and Peter McCullough, if only to expose the flaws in McCullough’s position, which could inspire many of the hold-outs to get it, right?

We have public debates between political candidates to supposedly to educate the voter. Why wouldn’t they want to have a thorough public debate if billions of people are suddenly going to be basically forced to inject a foreign substance into their veins?

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Because they are addicted to censorship. Jewish thought is that once we control things we can simply censor contrary views. Free speech is a pain in the ass, a european value they do not share. They pretended to share it when they were out of power and it could be used to subvert anglo power. The ACLU(a largely Jewish run organization) has shifted from being for free speech to suppressing free speech as Jewish control over mass communication and politics has become nearly absolute.

Why waste time debating or convincing people something is right when we can simply censor alternate views is now the prevailing view, be they political or scientific views. The fact that in this rare case the “mainstream” view is probably right and can be largely proven doesnt matter to them, they think most people are idiots that must be told what is right.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

But they’re not censoring the pro vax position. Why don’t they censor Fauci. Their “addiction” is only in one direction?

Why would they host multiple primary/general election debates but not vax debates? What was Dr McCullough’s rebuttal to the person who rebutted him? And what will the new rebuttal to Dr McCullough be? I’m not smarter than them. Surely they know that more people would take the vax with even the appearance of a debate. Yet, no debate to save lives?

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But they’re not censoring the pro vax position. Why don’t they censor Fauci. Their “addiction” is only in one direction?

Of course, because one side is largely right on this issue, and this right answer doesnt conflict with Jewish objectives really. Jewish power censors shit if they perceive it to be detrimental to long term Jewish interests, regardless of whether it is true. On the covid issue they generally perceive it to be in their interests not to have a virus running rampant and uncontrolled through the west to the point it places them in jeopardy and damages the economy, so they generally support the pro vax side and censor dissenting voices, although to be sure they dont censor the anti vaxxers anywhere NEAR they do people who speak out against mass immigration, criticize Jews, or take pro white positions. Joe Rogan would be taken off the air tomorrow if he ever named the Jew, but he can more or less get away with attacking the covid consensus. Sure he's taken some pushback, but nowhere near what he would do if he broached truly taboo issues that Jews dont want us talking about.

Honestly, I dont care about this issue enough to go digging up links. Sorry. You can certainly google the mainstream consensus on covid, its not like its being censored. I dont see why you care about it really. If you dont want the vax dont get it. Simples. The hysterical shit about herding people into fema camps because they arent vaxxed hasnt come to pass, nor have the dire predictions about the vaccinated suffering widespread severe health affects for that matter.

Yet, no debate to save lives

The vaccines seem to be waning in their effectiveness. They clearly reduced hospitalizations of covid patients and the overall mortality rate, but it was always suggested that their effectiveness would probably reduce gradually the more covid mutated. I dont know what the latest view of their current effectiveness is because I stopped paying attention to this issue to be honest.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So you’re adamantly anti-Covid conspiracy, but admit that it is coincidentally in line with their “interests?”

Saying they don’t debate because they are “largely right” is circular and presumes a position that can be respected only AFTER a thorough back and forth debate has been had. That hasn’t been done.

Short of that, if you were Judge Judy trying to hear both sides of a matter, and one party was continuously preventing the other party from being heard, what do you think she would do? She would grant default judgment against the suppressive party. You’re doing the opposite.

Also, by fixating on claims of FEMA camps and doomsday speculations, it reminds me of people who think all 9/11 truthers believe the planes were holograms. The “hysterical shit” is mostly the result of people having to take their persuasion tactics to the next level, because others (such as yourself?) flippantly dismiss the less sexy red flags. Like the obvious suppression of professional opposing viewpoints I’ve been talking about.

Again, I’m just curious as my username suggests. But I would think a responsible dissident would error on the side of not further normalizing trust and acquiescence to an authority that is already allegedly is trying to replace his people. But again, you’re doing the opposite.