Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

who denied that there was anything dangerous about the vaccines.

I only deny they're part of some greater plot to somehow inflict pain on humanity because Bill Gates and Fauci are part of a shadowy cabal.

Considering my own country has basically let the remaining stockpile expire, I'm not even sure what the conspiracy is about anymore. Was this part of the plan?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-in-national-stockpile-starting-to-expire-as-uptake-slows-1.5860395

As for vaccine side effects, again, according to data, at least 55% of all deaths/hospitalizations still originate from the unvax. Whatever your belief system is, people picked their chances but the numbers don't lie.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html#a9

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

As for vaccine side effects, again, according to data, at least 55% of all deaths/hospitalizations still originate from the unvax.

We've told you countless times that the 'data' is corrupted. Phizer's own documents, forced out by a judge, show they altered trial data. This is a giant cluster fuck of lies and deceptions. I'm not going to argue with you about it though. This thread really isn't the place for that and you've already shown yourself to be a brick wall when it comes to questioning mainstream interpretations. All you do is soak up peoples time and energy.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Phizer's own documents, forced out by a judge, show they altered trial data.

Would you mind sharing where you've seen this? I want to save it for later

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The original 95% efficacy nonsense was based on intentionally misleading statistics and poor data collection.

Pfizer and Moderna each did a non-random follow-up based on participant self-reporting of 0.4% and 0.9% of their trial participants, respectively, and both their vaccines were found to have a 95% efficacy.

The Chinese and Indian whole inactivated viral vaccines did a pre-determined follow-up of 6.5% and 31% of trial participants and found an efficacy of about 75%.

Based on the track record of whole inactivated vaccines (literally every other vaccine in existence, have you ever heard of a widespread outbreak of mumps, measles, rubella or other pathogens amongst adults?) and the much better follow-up, I'm more inclined to believe that a 75% efficacy is the upper limit and that the efficacy calculated by Pfizer and Moderna is from poorly designed science. Intuitively, the difference in efficacies don't make sense either. A whole inactivated virus (Covid is ~30k basepairs) would result in far more greater epitopes (signatures or targets that our immune system recognizes to deal with a pathogen) and thus a more comprehensive immune response than the smaller spike protein target that only incorporated about 5k basepairs worth of material for our immune systems to be trained from. Viruses typically dump their contents within a cell in order to reproduce, so it is possible for all 30k basepairs to be utilized by the immune system.

Not Pfizer but CDC misinforming people.

This CDC report counts people as unvaccinated within 14 days after their first shot. No reason for that kind of conflation.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7034e5-H.pdf

s. Persons were considered fully vaccinated ≥14 days after receipt of the second dose in a 2-dose series (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines) or after 1 dose of the single dose Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 vaccine¶; partially vaccinated ≥14 days after receipt of the first dose and <14 days after the second dose in a 2-dose series; and unvaccinated <14 days after receipt of the first dose of a 2-dose series or 1 dose of the single-dose vaccine or if no CAIR2 vaccination data were available.