Vaccine side effects: A personal anecdote

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[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

I'm not getting a stroke and no one in my family or my circle of friends got a stroke, and it has been over one year.

Unfortunately, neither you nor any of your family members have the luxury of knowing whether or not they will be free from serious health complications. No one knows whats going on in their bodys at all times. If you took the vaccine, there might be a stroke or heart attack in your future.

I guess the new cope is that it permanently damages you or something, since the mass die-off /pol/ retards have been predicting for 1.5 years clearly isn't happening.

I never predicted anything like a mass die off, so that doesn't reflect on me. What I predicted was a long term, major increase in mortality from diseases as a result of immune systems burnt out by the vaccines. It has already been confirmed that we are on the trajectory for this. I don't know what the total number of deaths will be when this is all over, or how long it will take to be over. In the U.S. alone, many tens of millions of people have received the RNA vaccine, which has altered their very genetic code! The various effects from that (whether benign or harmful) may be around with us forever.

Sorry about your dad, you just make a claim based on what some internet grifter told you

'Some internet grifter'? Are you really so stupid as to assume I have based all my research on the hearsay of one person? I have studied the subject of the coronavirus and the vaccines in far more detail than what you assume. I have sifted through enormous stacks of information over the past 2 years, read over a hundred articles, and numerous scientific studys. What research have you done, besides uncritically repeating what the mainstream media told you?

People can have strokes randomly, yet you are wildly jumping to conclusions here.

It is not unreasonable to conclude that my father suffered from a vaccine adverse reaction. The VAERs database shows that tens of thousands of people have been killed or permanently injured from the vaccines. The majority of reported illnesses are related to the circulatory system, with thrombosis, strokes, heart attacks, myocarditis, and pericarditis being common.

[–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Unfortunately, neither you nor any of your family members have the luxury of knowing whether or not they will be free from serious health complications.

The same could be said about a ton of things were exposed to. Covid itself appears to have long lasting complications even in previously healthy people who had mild infections. Ever hear of long covid? No one knows for sure what is causing it, but one of the leading suspects is literal brain damage caused by microclots in blood vessels in the brain, but yeah, its just the flu brah, isnt that what you said when it first started? I lost track of your evolving conspiracy theories.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Ever hear of long covid?

Ah yes, so thats why all those teenage athletes were getting myocarditis and pericarditis. Checkmate, conspiracy theorists!

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

A few billion people got the vaccine. How many got myocarditis? I feel bad for you. You used to contribute here, but covid completely broke you. This is literally some kind of phobia with you. This is assuming you arent some kind of disingenuous shill trying to fuck with the goys by spreading q anon tier bullshit and dividing and discrediting the opposition. Most of us have moved on as your evolving dooms day scenarios have fizzled.

Meanwhile covid is still with us. It probably always will be. One day you might even die from it, im sure youll be denying it up to the point they put you on a ventilator. Maybe itll evolve to something less severe, or maybe get worse. Meanwhile just try to live your life and stop acting like a panicked elephant. Many of you covid conspiracists are worse than the covid hysterics.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

In your opinion, what should everyday people do with the professional opinions of doctors like Peter McCullough, Ryan Cole, Robert Malone, etc? Should they just be dismissed, and the opinions of the politician-affiliated professionals be adopted without a public debate? Are there any red flags the opposing position has raised that have any legitimacy to you?

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Debate it all you want. I dont think vax skeptics should be censored, and I have some MILD hesitation about the vax myself, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and the potential for the covid pandemic to have been even worse than it was, was real. They were throwing the kitchen sink at it because it was proving devastating to the world economy, and we still dont know the long term complications of getting covid itself, those alone could have severe implications for society and the health care system.

I think the vaccine has a higher incidence of complications than previous vaccines, but Ive also read the rebuttals to the professionals you mentioned, and those rebuttals are by far the majority of opinion from scientists and professionals. They aren't all part of some conspiracy, and their rebuttals are proving more right with each passing day.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If they genuinely want to get everyone vaxxed for their safety, why do you think there is no PUBLIC debate though, on TV, ensuring that no stone is left unturned? For example, between Fauci and Peter McCullough, if only to expose the flaws in McCullough’s position, which could inspire many of the hold-outs to get it, right?

We have public debates between political candidates to supposedly to educate the voter. Why wouldn’t they want to have a thorough public debate if billions of people are suddenly going to be basically forced to inject a foreign substance into their veins?

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Because they are addicted to censorship. Jewish thought is that once we control things we can simply censor contrary views. Free speech is a pain in the ass, a european value they do not share. They pretended to share it when they were out of power and it could be used to subvert anglo power. The ACLU(a largely Jewish run organization) has shifted from being for free speech to suppressing free speech as Jewish control over mass communication and politics has become nearly absolute.

Why waste time debating or convincing people something is right when we can simply censor alternate views is now the prevailing view, be they political or scientific views. The fact that in this rare case the “mainstream” view is probably right and can be largely proven doesnt matter to them, they think most people are idiots that must be told what is right.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

But they’re not censoring the pro vax position. Why don’t they censor Fauci. Their “addiction” is only in one direction?

Why would they host multiple primary/general election debates but not vax debates? What was Dr McCullough’s rebuttal to the person who rebutted him? And what will the new rebuttal to Dr McCullough be? I’m not smarter than them. Surely they know that more people would take the vax with even the appearance of a debate. Yet, no debate to save lives?

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But they’re not censoring the pro vax position. Why don’t they censor Fauci. Their “addiction” is only in one direction?

Of course, because one side is largely right on this issue, and this right answer doesnt conflict with Jewish objectives really. Jewish power censors shit if they perceive it to be detrimental to long term Jewish interests, regardless of whether it is true. On the covid issue they generally perceive it to be in their interests not to have a virus running rampant and uncontrolled through the west to the point it places them in jeopardy and damages the economy, so they generally support the pro vax side and censor dissenting voices, although to be sure they dont censor the anti vaxxers anywhere NEAR they do people who speak out against mass immigration, criticize Jews, or take pro white positions. Joe Rogan would be taken off the air tomorrow if he ever named the Jew, but he can more or less get away with attacking the covid consensus. Sure he's taken some pushback, but nowhere near what he would do if he broached truly taboo issues that Jews dont want us talking about.

Honestly, I dont care about this issue enough to go digging up links. Sorry. You can certainly google the mainstream consensus on covid, its not like its being censored. I dont see why you care about it really. If you dont want the vax dont get it. Simples. The hysterical shit about herding people into fema camps because they arent vaxxed hasnt come to pass, nor have the dire predictions about the vaccinated suffering widespread severe health affects for that matter.

Yet, no debate to save lives

The vaccines seem to be waning in their effectiveness. They clearly reduced hospitalizations of covid patients and the overall mortality rate, but it was always suggested that their effectiveness would probably reduce gradually the more covid mutated. I dont know what the latest view of their current effectiveness is because I stopped paying attention to this issue to be honest.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I feel bad for you. You used to contribute here, but covid completely broke you.

Lurk moar, faggot. I've been around way longer than you. I've been speaking out about the plandemic since mid 2020. Thats longer than you've even had an account on Saidit.

This is literally some kind of phobia with you.

Oh yeah, its a phobia to me? But its not a phobia to the millions of assholes who supported the lockdowns, masking, and mass vaccinations (with penaltys for non-compliars)? You pro-vaxxers are the ones who forced your phobias onto wider society, causing unimaginable damage in the process. Take your fake moral outrage and shove it up your ass.

This is assuming you arent some kind of disingenuous shill trying to fuck with the goys

Nah, that would be guys like you trying to convince gullible whites to inject themselves with poison 'for the good of society.'

by spreading q anon tier bullshit and dividing and discrediting the opposition

Qanon was disinfo from start to finish. I have warned so many people over the years... Don't compare me to that astroturfed bullshit. And as for 'discrediting the opposition', don't make me laugh. This is the Alt Right, buddy. We are the most hated political group in Western civilisation. We aren't going to overturn that by siding with the Establishment. We can only overturn that by exposing their lies.

Most of us have moved on as your evolving dooms day scenarios have fizzled.

The dooms day scenarios were not mine to make. As soon as the vaccines were rolled out, there were always going to be sensationalists claiming that the vaccines would kill 90% of humanity or some such bullshit. You seem to forget that the conspiracy community naturally attracts people with schizoid personalitys and a tenuous grasp on reality. These people always exaggerate and sensationalise things; they are white noise, you need to have some discernment and screen them out.

Meanwhile covid is still with us. It probably always will be.

Oh no! What are we gonna do?! Its only a disease with a 99% survival rate. I guess we're gonna have to get annual vaccinations forever, huh?

One day you might even die from it, im sure youll be denying it up to the point they put you on a ventilator

I'm not gonna keel over from the rona, dude. I'm a healthy man in my early 30s. In fact, I'm pretty sure I caught covid back in January. I got over it in a single day, easy. So now I've got natural immunity (you know, that thing that pro-vaxxers are so keen to ignore). Even if I did get sick in the future from some new variant of covid, I sure as shit wouldn't let those assholes put me on a ventilator. That actually makes things worse.

Meanwhile just try to live your life and stop acting like a panicked elephant.

Follow your own advice, and get thee behind me.

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You pro-vaxxers are the ones who forced your phobias onto wider society, causing unimaginable damage in the process.

I'm not really pro vax. I'm kind of indifferent to it really, but the shit about causing "unimaginable damage" simply hasnt come to pass, by any stretch of the imagination. It's just you being hysterical.

I'm not gonna keel over from the rona, dude. I'm a healthy man in my early 30s.

Good for you. Dont get the vax. "problem" solved.

In fact, I'm pretty sure I caught covid back in January. I got over it in a single day, easy.

You seem to be pretty sure of a lot of things that are in fact bullshit, so call me skeptical.

Even if I did get sick in the future from some new variant of covid, I sure as shit wouldn't let those assholes put me on a ventilator. That actually makes things worse.

I generally agree with that, dont plan on it myself either, although it's a little more complicated than universally saying it always makes things worse.

So now I've got natural immunity (you know, that thing that pro-vaxxers are so keen to ignore).

Congragulations, once again problem solved, so you can stop bugging us about covid.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm kind of indifferent to it really, but the shit about causing "unimaginable damage" simply hasnt come to pass, by any stretch of the imagination

You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts. There have been 160,000+ deaths that plausibly resulted from the vaccines in the U.S. By contrast, a measly 3000 deaths on September 11th was enough to justify the war on terror.

VAERS: 160,000+ Americans Have Likely Died From COVID-19 Injections.

You seem to be pretty sure of a lot of things that are in fact bullshit, so call me skeptical.

What the hell do you know, newguy? Did I get sick or did you? Your gonna tell me how I felt?

Congragulations, once again problem solved, so you can stop bugging us about covid.

I haven't been 'bugging' anyone, dude. This is the first time I've touched on the vaccines in the last 4 months. And given what happened to my father, I felt obligated to share my story with others. Its one thing for me to talk about data and statistics; thats abstract and impersonal. Its another thing entirely to talk about an incident that affected me personally. This is my thread, your the one who came here in a huff to try and shout me down.

Stop trying to police me, and I won't give you such a hard time.