Thoughts on this statement? - "The dumbest person in the top 1/6th of Whites is separated from the smartest person in the bottom 1/6th of Whites by 30 points, which is double the Black-White gap"

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This is a comment from a discussion on why Appalachia is in third world conditions while on paper having the human capital to be like Austria

https://twitter.com/Exachad/status/1530585597726887936

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why compare the top 6th of Whites to Whites but not to Blacks? Both the bottom sixth of Whites and bottom half of Blacks would have an IQ of 85 or lower. So, any random Black person is three times as likely to have an IQ of 85 or less than a random White person. I'll take my luck with the Whites, thanks.

In any case, this is not a particularly useful statistic. You're not going to find a community of just the dumbest whites, it's a heterogeneous distribution (+ regression to the mean). There are obviously smart people in Appalachia. If you're trying to understand the Applachian Question, you should read Opioids for the Masses.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ok, so a white person with an IQ of 115 is 30 points smarter than a white person with an IQ of 85. Thats "double the black white IQ gap". But, the average black has an IQ of 85. Using the same math, the typical white person with an IQ of 100 is smarter than 85% of blacks. If we adjust for the fact that blacks have a smaller SD than whites (like 12 instead of 15) then this gap becomes like 90%

https://www.hackmath.net/en/calculator/normal-distribution

So is IQ really such a "bad argument for solidarity" if we play with numbers a different way?

This also completely ignores the applicability of IQ in a real-world context. IQs below 80 are basically unemployable. Thats at least a third of blacks or more

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thats at least a third of blacks or more

The ones they're importing into Europe are even more retarded, and they're supposed to keep our welfare states afloat. Lol!

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The dumbest Whites still do better in school than the smartest Blacks.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/1995-SAT-vs-Income-Education.png

Also, didn't John P Rushton do a study on the regression towards the mean? Overtime, even the children of dumb whites will go back to 100 IQ points, whereas smart Black parents will have grandchildren that's closer to 85 IQ.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Living conditions are moreso determined by policy than by some liberal notion of bootstrapping. There are for sure smaller things like littering and maintaining property that have nothing to do with this but in the case of poverty stricken white areas it's mostly because there's policy implications IE zero investment in infrastructure thus zero businesses and that kind of thing. When there's no capital in the area the people are obviously going to be poor and when the government intentionally neglects them because they're white there's no real way of them building anything up. If you pressed a magic button that gave all rural Appalachians +40iq points with the stipulation that they have to remain in their current homes forever there would be little change compared to if the subhuman GOP just decided to actually give them basic amenities and invest in a little infrastructure so there's more jobs, as well as forbidding opioid peddlers to murder them.

Anyone who thinks IQ or anything like that is relevant with neglected rural white areas is probably top of the bell curve themselves.

[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, I think one of the interesting things that the pandemic lockdowns established is that modern post-industrial farce economies run more or less exclusively on banking voodoo. The vast majority of work today does not seem to be productive work at all. Even if we look at useful labour only, its efficacy will still be impacted by all sorts of government-controlled conditions such as access to raw materials, jobs, infrastructure, capital, the legal situation, etc. In fact, because of centralisation and managerialism, I think it would probably be harder for high IQ people to make a positive economic and social difference in their societies today than it would have been two centuries ago.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The vast majority of work today does not seem to be productive work at all.

It's called bullshit jobs for a reason.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The vast majority of work today does not seem to be productive work at all

Can confirm. Worked in various corporate offices where entire departments were useless.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whites have a much broader distribution. We know this.

[–]AidsVictim69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Only parts of Appalachia are really severely impoverished, it's mostly just where Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia meet. Conditions within it are mostly very similar to other rural areas, especially in the modern context. The area is more difficult and capital intensive to develop than other parts of the country because of the terrain (and to a lesser extent the weather).

If you look at county poverty map Appalachia is actually mostly invisible except for those aforementioned areas https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2018/comm/acs-5yr-poverty-all-counties.html