Morality and the pragmatic approach to statesmanship

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    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    The core issue at the heart of the modern world and its rot is the question of purpose and meaning.

    Why do we exist? Why do our societies exist? Why should I live a moral life or care about my heritage or community at all?

    The answer of the liberal-modernist establishment is identical to the Nietzschean one: there is no meaning.

    The liberals simply took this answer to its logical conclusion. So what if my grandchildren become 70 IQ mulattoes and live in a dustbin? What if Congolese gang rapists burn my ancestral cemetery and rape my sister? What if I engage in sodomy, do drugs, and rape kids? Why is it wrong? Why is anything wrong in the absence of any grand meaning?

    Are we not just a random arrangement of quarks and leptons that assumed this formation by pure happenstance? When we die, do we not simply change the arrangement of said particles? Then, do our lives and actions have any meanings? Aren't they just meaningless rearrangements of particles?

    A world in which humans lack this sense of purpose or meaning is a world doomed to die like the current liberal west. Declining birth rates, immigrant invasions, and collapsing moral and social outcomes.

    The only way one can draw any meaning from this world is through God or a sense of natural law.

    Natural law/evolutionarily adaptive behavior is the expression of God's will in that societies that stray from adaptive values (For example, patriarchy, nationalism, piety, martial vigor, modesty, chastity, hardiness) atrophy and lose out in the eternal contest of nations.

    You can draw meaning from that in either of two ways. Either you could hold that natural law/dharma is God's will and your purpose in life is to abide by it. Or you could interpret it in a biological way: You are a product of billions of years of evolution and it is your biological duty and purpose to abide by dharma/adaptive behaviors. That is your purpose.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The answer of the liberal-modernist establishment is identical to the Nietzschean one: there is no meaning.

    That's false. The Nietzschean answer is to stare the abyss in the face and overcome it by creating your own meaning based on a radical affirmation of power, beauty, and vitality.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    creating your own meaning

    No one has done this successfully. Certainly not Nietzsche himself who fucked his own sister and was confined to a mental ward for the last years of his life.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    No one has done this successfully.

    What are you talking about? I do it every day.

    Certainly not Nietzsche himself who fucked his own sister and was confined to a mental ward for the last years of his life.

    Ad hominem.