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[–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

The real thing that stands out to be about this situation is that Zelensky STILL has not given the soldiers trapped in Mariupol permission to surrender and expects them to be be willingly annihilated. This seems like it's pretty much unprecedented in modern times. Generally the European way of war is that one side fights until the situation is completely hopeless, then surrenders. But of course Zelensky isnt a real European and doesnt see Ukrainians or Europeans as his people, so it's not at all surprising that he just regards them as disposable cattle.

[–]Fourth_stage 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nonsense

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    [–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    By that logic, Hitler's Germany wasn't European. The actual European attitude towards war ought to be, there's no such thing as a hopeless situation.

    Quit trying to be cute, and who the fuck cares what Hitler did, Hitler sacrificed millions of Germans and made Jews more powerful than they ever could have been otherwise, and his repeatedly refusing his generals suggestion of strategic withdrawls and his sacrifice of Paulus and his men is considered what one of the worst blunders in military history, and I also said modern times, not nearly a hundred fucking years ago.

    By that logic, Hitler's Germany wasn't European. The actual European attitude towards war ought to be, there's no such thing as a hopeless situation.

    I would call being surrounded by the Russian army while expecting to sacrifice yourself for Jew neocon globohomoists about as hopeless as it gets. Dying for a lost cause is bad enough, but not as bad as dying for a bad cause.

    [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Probably they know that the soviets will execute them anyway as they always did with prisoners.

    If by European you mean French and British, they both had a fairly recent history of not respecting prisoners and non-combatants.

    [–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Probably they know that the soviets will execute them anyway as they always did with prisoners.

    Soviets? The Soviet Union doesnt exist, and you are talking when, nearly a century ago in ww2?

    If by European you mean French and British, they both had a fairly recent history of not respecting prisoners and non-combatants.

    Fairly recenting meaning when, ww2?

    The entire worlds attention is on Ukraine, and specifically this avostal steel plant, seems risky for the Russians to just execute prisoners after their surrender was announced to the world. They didnt execute the snake Island guardsman even though their corrupt Jew led govt had already declared them dead.

    [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The 50s and the 60s are fairly recent. In any case, the Russian army uses a lot of soviet flags.