Russian crisis has fully laid bare the disunity of NATO and the EU

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[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We need to stop to be contrarian on everything. The EU is a just a box, it's the promise of a European nation state. All states can be ruled by the left or the right, but in order to rule something you need the entity you want to rule to exist first. I don't get why this basic kind of pragmatism isn't understood by the radical right.

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    If NatSoc ever makes a comeback it will only ever be in a 'reskin', i.e. with different symbolism, foundational texts, intellectual forerunners, etc. Even literal Bolshevik-Leninism has a far greater chance of being revived than NatSoc, but even there those tankies who straight-up adopt Soviet ideology and symbolism are just a fringe minority that Leftists don't accept are even on their side of politics, because the contemporary Left is trying, quite successfully among many, to convince people that Bolshevik-Leninism isn't Left-wing and is in fact a form of 'Red Fascism' or whatever. This thus cleans the dirty slate of their history and better enables people to embrace their ideology, while the Right ends up stuck with both the NatSoc and Bolshevik-Leninist legacy because they've thrown that hot potato over to our side. They've succeeded so well that modern day Leftists have convinced themselves that it'll all be different this time around and that any comparison of them with Bolshevik-Leninism is a false equivalency: 'they're a type of fascist and we're not'. Of course, the underlying beliefs are practically the same excepting a replacement of the focus on material things, like 'means of production' and technology, with a focus on everything sociocultural (which is remarkably more successful).

    Tankies are simply trying to embrace the dirty slate the successful Leftists have left behind. It's like the Left-wing version of becoming someone who resembles the tatted-up 'neo-Nazi skinhead' stereotype. Practically every surviving Eurocommunist party, like France's PCF, has discarded Bolshevik-Leninist symbolism for a reason.

    Many people on the DR also fall for this, embracing certain regimes that would have probably chucked them in gulags, which ironically aids the Left in successfully reinterpreting them as 'actually Right-wing'. I can't imagine the likes of Matt Heimbach, for example, being socially acceptable in the USSR, because the Left provides no path to redemption for people it unpersons: no matter what Heimbach does, he'll always be thought of as a 'Nazi'. Same with Piccolini and Schoep: the System keeps them around for propaganda purposes and would immediately fully unperson them again if they ceased fulfilling that function.