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[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Republican states are the most white. In fact the states with the highest black population are all Red.

Vast majority of Americans are against this. Conservatives have been able to gain traction because the modern Left has become so bad that Republicans have begun to look better in the culture war. Rather than the usual stupid religious right nonsense the current conservative culture war was against things like critical race theory, trans, pro crime/riots. Considering how hard conservatives go after abortion you would think there was a huge support to ban it but it is only a minority of conservatives who consider this a passionate issue. But who cares because it will "trigger the libs" I guess.

[–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Overlooking an opportunity to cut one of the many causes decreasing White births just because a bunch of non-whites largely self-segregating in shitholes like Atlanta, where there are almost no Whites to begin with, seems pointless to me. For example, if you look at channels like https://www.youtube.com/user/securityofone it is easy to see that plenty of places in which blacks live have practically no non-black populations whatsoever. Pray tell, how many non-blacks can you find in any of his videos?

The gains made by having more Whites in Red states seems to me to vastly outweigh the losses incurred by having more blacks in (and mostly only in select areas of, at that) Red states, and that's all that's really at stake here, because in Blue states business goes on as usual, with abortion continuing in places like California and Illinois (nobody is going to take abortion away from the countless blacks in Chicago and Detroit, or the countless Hispanics in California) with or without RvW.

Another obvious plus side is that it will help prevent emigration from the more populous Blue states to smaller Red states, which heavily threatens Federal elections even further still, since large numbers of Democrats can flip more sparsely populated states Blue. They talk about doing this all the time in order to deprive the Republicans of each Red state's two guaranteed Senate seats. American elections are largely winner takes all, which means that if Democrats spread themselves strategically throughout Republican America (and they by far have the demographic advantage, having won every popular vote since 1988) they will simply seize the whole country. But such plans are unlikely to amount to anything if the Democrats find life in Republican America intolerable and thus choose to remain in places like California.

We're already seeing the effects of this in places like Nevada, to where plenty of the Californian garbage is spreading. But reversing RvW will in turn help to further polarize the country into a 'Red America' and 'Blue America' with separate realities, by making abortion an additional wedge issue to drive them further apart. Current wedge issues like CRT are clearly not enough to destabilize or divide the country.

'Triggering the libs' does far more for us than whatever DeSantis or Youngkin or some other Repub has done regarding CRT or 'transwomen' in women's sports or some other 'current year' battle which the Republicans always lose on in the end. BLM's bullshit in 2020 did wonders in reversing the Republicans' rapid decline in polling when Covid came, and if the Left-liberals come out to protest something that by and large doesn't even concern them unless they live in a Red state, it will do the same. The Republicans need to be far more destabilizing, polarizing and provocative, and far less bipartisan both for their own good and ours. Bipartisanship just makes both parties seem like two wings of the same System bird, and does nothing to break up the country in ways from which Whites can benefit. I don't want the GOP to convince the Democrats to adopt their position on something like CRT, thus winning part of the 'culture war'; I want the GOP to push things that the Democrats absolutely hate, thus impossibilizing the continuation of a singular America. I want them to push the types of policies that lead Left-liberals to burn and loot, clash with police, declare 'autonomous zones' like the CHAZ/CHOP, force businesses to board up or close in their own areas and otherwise convince others that both sides can't live together anymore. A CalExit consequent of extreme levels of polarization, for example, would be overwhelmingly good for Whites. Whereas I can't see anything really positive out of defeating CRT, since the centrist/colourblind position that CRT is replacing was similarly bad and in some ways is even worse for us. CRT is leading to new forms of segregation, the only difference between 'old' and 'new' segregation being that they call the shots rather than Whites, for example.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Republican states are the most white. In fact the states with the highest black population are all Red.

You mean Democratic states?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've been on the fence about abortion but I think you have the right take on this. The potential gain to the white populace is far more valuable to us. The idea that we'd be drowning in black and hispanic people if we banned abortion doesn't seem to necessarily hold up. Black people live shorter lives and are constantly getting funneled into activities like drug use, gang crime, homosexuality and generalized death by stupidity. These all reduce the black population. Those black population reducers are still going to keep the black population in check after abortion is banned. Jews are still going to help blacks abort in church basements. Blacks are still going to run to liberal areas that give them welfare and abortion. I lean towards the possibility that more right wing whites will be born as a result of this impending ruling.

But reversing RvW will in turn help to further polarize the country into a 'Red America' and 'Blue America'

Agreed which might lead us to a genuine balkanization movement. Blacks having more kids in the Us isn't going to drown the white population like endless importation will. Many blacks being imported don't believe in abortion anyway. We must push hard to separate for suicidal white liberal states that cheer at the opportunity to turn the entire west into a minority white globohomo degenerate mess.

I want them to push the types of policies that lead Left-liberals to burn and loot, clash with police, declare 'autonomous zones' like the CHAZ/CHOP, force businesses to board up or close in their own areas and otherwise convince others that both sides can't live together anymore.

Agreed. The only way we can move forward, and possible out of this hell hole, is to find as many ways as possible to make whites uncomfortable. Whites need to be forced to choose a side and stop hiding from the reality of our collapsing civilization. If they don't wake up soon many of them will simply be culled as globohomo resets society with famine, pestilence and clotting/sterilizing fake vaccines. As much as I detest white liberals they are still white people and I want to save as many whites as possible. White people are capable of digesting new ideas and changing the political, religious, academic, and cultural beliefs drastically under the right conditions.

A CalExit consequent of extreme levels of polarization, for example, would be overwhelmingly good for Whites.

Strongly agree.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The thing is that America is electorally lost anyways and even if it weren't voting for the GOP is a dead end. Penny pinching on 51% and 50.5% non-Hispanic white America leads you nowhere. It's irrelevant when 3 million immigrants come to the US every year.

White must think in absolute terms, in terms of influence and power rather than electoral trivialities. Jews don't care whether the percentage of Jews in the US is 2.6% or 2.1%. They control the levers of power and exert complete control over cultural and social life.

Whites must think in absolute terms and think of preserving their race in the long run. The mindset shouldn't be to try to flash freeze the white percentage of the US at 56% or 55%, it should be to preserve the absolute number of whites(190 million).

Eliminating abortion gives you millions of more blacks but it also gives you a similar number of whites. It helps you maintain that 190 million number and thus maintain strength on absolute numbers.

The fewer whites there are in the world in absolute numbers, the weaker whites are overall and the rarer they become. Without abortion, there would probably be 20-30 million more blacks, but there also would be 20-30 million more whites as well.

20-30 million blacks make as much of an impact as 200-300 million blacks. 20-30 million whites can change the world (Britain in 1820 had a population of 15 million)

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The fewer whites there are in the world in absolute numbers, the weaker whites are overall and the rarer they become. Without abortion, there would probably be 20-30 million more blacks, but there also would be 20-30 more whites as well.

Agreed. As a bonus the abortion issue cleaves the country and radicalizes both sides. It also scares moderates into picking sides. Once you've tribalized the elctorate enough you've got a real shot at balknization not just more Jew approved GOP ideas.

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    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    A collection of statelets that hate each other and go to war every few years?

    I don't see a legislative fix to our current impending collapse. The current US government is captured by globalist secret societies. That's not going to change. Separate states where genuine fascist/dissident movements might actually capture government power is at least a hopeful scenario. If Commiefornia attempts to go to war with Idaho or Utah so be it. I doubt they will.

    Or a clean White-POC Cold War style split with each side trying to unite the land by force?

    The POC side would be led by Jews and would be mostly incompetent. The only danger would be if they had help from outside countries or used nukes. Both of which are not really any more scary then watching the country simply collapse as we stand by and do nothing. We must develop a political alliance, a plan and then actually do something or the train of demographics and degeneracy is going to run over all of us.

    And what happens to the Nuclear arsenal?

    I'm not sure exactly what happens but to be honest I think the central banking families use nukes as a scare tactic. A balkanization event might help dissidents learn more about the real size and strength of the US nuclear arsenal. The intelligence community will also need to be purged. I doubt any aspect of the US and Israeli spy network is salvageable. These people are too invested in globalism/satanism and the elimination of white ethnostates.

    Military installations?

    I'm not really concerned about the installations themselves. If most quality white soldier defect to the white ethnostates then the old installation are a minor problem because they will be staffed with incompetent POC. New military installations can be built in the ethnostates. New alliances formed. Alliances based on history and blood not Jewish fabrications and worship of mammon.

    Who gets control over what resources and shipping lanes?

    This is a very genuine problem. If the US goes through a balkanization period we will temporarily weaken as world leaders which will create a power vacumn that could be filled to nations hostile to us. I don't really care though. The current situation in the US is untenable and will inevitable lead to our death as a race if we don't address it soon.

    It feels so out there that it’s hard to imagine. We’ll see in a few years I guess

    Most of the things going on in 2022 would seem out there to anyone from 10 or even 5 years ago. Balkanization doesn't seem that bizarre. It has happened in eastern Europe. Every other route to power seems firmly closed to us.

    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    At first I agreed with you on this, because it's a good argument. The right could and should be sanctioning the left any way legally possible. It's good for us when the left chimps out. Why stop at Roe v. Wade? They could overturn Obergefell v. Hodges and watch the left literally attempt insurrection and Self-immolate in protest.

    Then I got to thinking about it more and I disagree because the justices and republicans have no such motivation. They are only doing this because their pastor gives them sermons about how democrats are the real racists for aborting black babies.

    [–]Richard_Parker[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    This needed to be done in 93 with Casey, to put an end to judicial activism. The Constitution has outlived its usefulness and I am fully post-democratic in my thinking but there is an advantage to stemming the tide. Roe v Wade style legislating from the bench is what made gay marriage possible....

    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Under what law are marriage licenses for butt bandits required in my state? No such law was passed when anal marriage licenses were issued.

    [–]Richard_Parker[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    SCOTUS "discerned" the Constitutional right to gay marriage in Obergefell.v Hodges, in the same for of judicial activism seen in Roe v Wade et Al

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The constitution was admirable to some degree in its first draft when it restricted voting to land-owning white males only. The continuous amendments over time have rendered it into a shitshow.

    [–]Richard_Parker[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The problem with requiring ownership of land is that it exacerbates problem of generatiobal wealth. The system envisioned in Starship Troopers is far better. Some poor people can be brilliant, capable and so on whilst some welarhy individuals can be degenrates, fools, cretins, idiots, etc.

    [–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The constitution was fucked the moment it was treated like a holy document.