Any place on the net where the holocaust can actually be discussed?

submitted by Dodosaresmart from (self.debatealtright)

I'm assuming lots of people here probably don't believe in it. Regardless, is there any place where the claims of both sides can be presented and examined? Like, I found this article: https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t553062/ and fact checked a couple of things from it

(like the Truman state of union https://www.infoplease.com/primary-sources/government/presidential-speeches/state-union-address-harry-s-truman-january-21-1946 or Eli Wiesel's "night" https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=d2ZzZC5rMTIubnkudXN8bXN0c255ZGVyfGd4OjUxYTc5YjY5NWZjODEzNTI)

and these check out. I remember trying to find the thing with the "almanacs" but couldn't find any pdfs to verify it one way or the other. But most importantly there just might be more nuance or context that is lost on me. On places like stormfront it's an anti holocaust echo chamber, whereas places that "teach history" have next to zero citations, references or sources. Any of the mainstream net is off the table obviously so where can I actually get BOTH sides to clash and present their arguments?

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just read books from Codoh/ihr. Thomas Dalton has a book that lays out arguments of both sides.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

CODOH forums. It's one sided, you won't have two-sided debate anywhere, but they treat it quite skeptically.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They actually allow two sides debates on codoh and there's no shills there.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Point – missed.

Pro-Holocaust side doesn't exist, not because they get banned, but because they don't need to debate it because you can't discuss it anywhere that matters without them getting you in trouble.

[–]________ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

For whatever reason 4chan's /tv/ board has better discussions/debates on this topic than /pol/ does.

Example: https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/166342907/#166342907

It's pretty evenly split. Best way to start a discussions is to post a webm from a WW2 movie about what allegedly happen to Jews and a debate will start.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Blue boards seem to have much less shills and bots than /pol/ does, I hardly touch 4/pol/ these days.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Only the big/influential boards tend to see bots. I see a few errant ones (if they aren't shills/bots then they're retards that behave similarly I guess, lol) on smaller boards on occasion. But /pol/, /k/, and other such boards that are popular and are often involved in current events tend to have both particularly egregious jannies as well as obnoxious shills, bot posts, etc. galore.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/biz/ is probably the worst of them, absolutely unreadable from all the shilling and there's almost no threads with any real discernable discourse. Sucks that activity and shills are so directly associated

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, saidit, Codoh.co, and Opie and Anthony.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Codoh forum.