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[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Now imagine Aliens looking at Earth with the same idea.

Even from a materialist perspective it's extremely unlikely that advanced life developed elsewhere in the universe before humans and near impossible that they figured out the FTL travel they would need to observe us that way. This whole self-deprecating idea of humans being the bad reactionary poor life-forms is a very strange secular liberal imitation of mythology.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Even from a materialist perspective it's extremely unlikely that advanced life developed elsewhere in the universe before humans and near impossible that they figured out the FTL travel they would need to observe us that way.

This is just cope, especially when humans only entered the universe timeline for a brief second. Before Humans, there where other ape-like creatures who were around much longer. Then it was dinosaurs, and single celled organisms who didn't even possess a brain.

The idea of Aliens to me represents some kind of being who perfected civilization and continued to build upon science.

Humans could join those ranks too, but only if we take a serious look at our politics and realize "our whole system is a lie".

This whole self-deprecating idea of humans being the bad reactionary poor life-forms is a very strange secular liberal imitation of mythology.

It's understandable when our current worldview is shaped by pointless violence. Again, look at Black people. I don't care if they take pride in themselves, nobody considers their race special because of how little they contribute, while feeling closer to animals instead of civilized.

I only want what's best for our species, and that's to move past the constant infighting.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is just cope, especially when humans only entered the universe timeline for a brief second. Before Humans, there where other ape-like creatures who were around much longer. Then it was dinosaurs, and single celled organisms who didn't even possess a brain.

The evidence points to Earth having developed complex life very early

https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/08/25/491307739/are-we-the-earliest-intelligent-life-in-the-universe

The idea of Aliens to me represents some kind of being who perfected civilization and continued to build upon science.

Humans could join those ranks too, but only if we take a serious look at our politics and realize "our whole system is a lie".

It's understandable when our current worldview is shaped by pointless violence.

I only want what's best for our species, and that's to move past the constant infighting.

These ideas represent the genesis of mythology/religion and it's honestly fascinating how it's taken shape over the last few decades. This legend of enlightened, pacifist, liberal aliens silently chastising the backwards dirty humans.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The evidence points to Earth having developed complex life very early

https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/08/25/491307739/are-we-the-earliest-intelligent-life-in-the-universe

Simple life, actually. Prokaryotes have been around for about 4 billion years. Eukaryotes have only been around for about 1.2 billion years. There was such a long delay between the emergence of simple and complex life that many scientists view it as an evolutionary bottleneck. Some even propose it as a candidate for the great filter.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good point, the emergence of complex life was so unlikely it's nearly impossible mathematically. I meant early relative to other planets in the universe though.